Wood Bench Surface - Wood Type and Treatment

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Hey all, been awhile since I have posted much. Bought a house and all that. But aside from making me extremely busy lately, having a house is great and now I have a new dedicated space for reloading. I have a bench in progress...basically the NRMA bench that has plans widely circulated and is very common. (I attached a couple sample pics...you'll recognize it).

Anyway, I like the look of the wood and would like to use it for the top surface too. I know there are probably more durable, harder surfaces, but figured I'd stick with plywood. Something nice like maybe a nice birch (but I don't know...it is like $40 per sheet!...I just know I don't want to use regular ol' pine plywood :))

Just wondering what people recommend with specifics for type of plywood and type/brand of varnish/stain/protectant. I don't know much about the differences honestly, so maybe someone can educate me on that too, and specifics on exact brand are also greatly appreciated. I basically want something that is relatively smooth, relatively durable, not too shiny, and of course pretty :cool:

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That $40 sheet of birch veneer plywood from Home Depot or Lowes probably will do you just fine. There are a million benches out there with a lot less. If you want to double the thickness to make a beefier top, you can get a sheet of regular 3/4" BC or even CDX plywood to back it up.

(Not having seen those plans in detail, I like to glue and nail on a thin piece of wood molding to cover the edge of the bench top if it's made of plywood. Doesn't have to protrude above the top, though it can. Just a band of solid wood to cover up the wood plies in the sheet. It looks better and it helps to prevent bumps and dings from chipping, splitting, or splintering the thin layers.

As for a finish, I'd just go with something simple. It's plywood, no reason to go nuts with super high end finishes or stains. A very durable, non glossy finish would be something like Minwax Polyurethane For Floors. Made for hard use, matte finish, pretty moisture and stain resistant. Easy to apply.
 
If it were my bench I would cover it with Red Oak Plywood. It's good looking and it's much harder than Pine.
That Minwax Polyurethane finish mentioned above is a good idea IMO.

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I used 5/8 inch sheeting grade plywood. This is actually Doug Fir ply. Surface dimensions 2 feet by 8 feet. I did paint it white. It serves as a work bench and reloading bench. That was 15 years ago and it is doing just fine. I did put a 2x6 under the top at the press mounting position so it takes the guff instead of flexing the plywood. The press mounting bolts go through the 2x6.
 
I would use Baltic Birch if I could find it. You could also use Oak faced plywood in 3/4". Lowes sells both but their not cheap. The Baltic Birch is softer than the Oak faced so it probably won't stand up as good to dings, neither one will stay ding free for long, both will seal and finish the same.

As far as finishing it, if your not going to stain it, put wood sealer on it first, let it dry, sand it smooth, then put on the finish coat of urethane or what ever you decide.

Just make sure it is oil based. The water based finish scratches really easily and doesn't soak into the wood, it just lays on top.

A sheet of raw plywood could take up to 6 coats of what ever finish you want to put on it, it will drink it like water unless you seal it first. With the sealer on there first you will minimize your finishing time dramatically. If I were doing it I would use Wipe on Polyurethane, satin finish, by Minwax. The gloss finish will reflect light badly and cause a lot of glare.
Wipe on Poly stinks (like all the brands do) but it is the easiest to put on. I build furniture or cabinets in my spare time, I use cheesecloth for applying it. You can buy it at any Lowes. It will give you the best finish.
Depending on what finish you want you could just use an oil brush also.

Give it 24hrs between coats and you can't go wrong.

Just follow the directions on the sealer and urethane and you'll be fine.
 
I agree with Sam1911.

This isn't a finished cabinet that's going to be on display in the livingroom or something. It's a durable workbench.

Definately double up on the countertop. I like the thought of Birch for the countertop because it's got a nice, light color and a really good, cabinet level, face. When doubling up, you don't have to use Birch for the bottom layer, though...pretty much a waste of money, in fact. Use Birch for the top only.

This will give you a smooth, light colored counter top on the bench. I like the idea of a light colored counter top because it's easier to find stuff laid out on it compared to darker colors. And it's ALWAYS nice to have a work surface that enhances the lighting of the workspace. Better on the eyes and better on the lighting requirements.

If you want the countertop to look like a solid piece of wood, you can face the edges with a strip of wood, trimmed to fit, and sanded flush with the countertop. If you'd like to have something to prevent tools and such from rolling off the countertop, trim the strips of wood to give you about a 1/4 inch lip all around the top.

If you stain it, stain it light. I don't like glossy finishes on such surfaces, because they can be annoying as work surfaces go. I would finish it with satin finish polueurathane. In fact, I'd probably go with something like a MinWax stain and polyeurathane finish, which combines the stain and finish in one produce. Get a light colored stain/finish in a small can and try it out on a scrap piece of plywood left over and see if you like it. If so, then buy enough of that in a larger can to do the job.

It'll probably take three coats to properly finish it and make it look decent. Take your time with each coat and be neat about it. The first coat, minutes after you put it on, will likely seem like it didn't do anything, finish-wise, because the wood will really suck up that first coat.

Lightly sand smooth after each coat is thoroughly dried before you put the next coat on. The second coat will look a lot better because the first will have sealed the wood pretty good. The third will look even better. For a workbench, I probably wouldn't go beyond that, though you can do as you see fit of course.

Since it's a workbench, I wouldn't go any further than that. It'll look decent and the finish will have sealed the wood to help protect it from spills and what-not.

With a double layer of plywood, the top will be plenty sturdy enough to mount your reloading equipment.

As for the durability of hardwood for the countertop...you're planning on using this as a reloading bench, not somthing to hammer on. If you're looking for a surface to hammer on, that's easy enough to accomplish with this: Get yourself a piece of steel plate cut to size to serve as such a surface and simply lay it on one end of the countertop. You could even make it brass if you want it to be non-sparking.


If I might make an additional suggestion here, just based on my own thoughts:

I'd consider making the countertop stick out an additional 4 to 6 inches to give you a little bit more of an overhang. It's easy enough to do, and will be plenty sturdy for a doubled layer of 3/4 inch plywood, plus extending the supports out as well. This will give you the ability to scoot right up to the countertop on your stool/bench without wacking your shins on the shelf below. No more than 6 inches, though, and be sure to support this with framing modifications because you'll want this portion to be able to mount your press and such without flexing. Maybe make the front framing piece 2X6 for extra durability, as the major load bearing beam for the press.
 
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I used a composite board, thick. It has been great. Also recommend a rim of small molding around the top of desk. You can the nose a wheel and cut out slots for your vice or anything else that protrudes. With the molding nothing ever rolls off! Also recommend anchoring your bench to wall studs.
 
I like butcher-block tops made from maple. Mine is 1-3/4" thick (twice the thickness of plywood). Plus they're already sanded and finished.
A 30"x48" slab runs about $122. This bench top is as rigid as concrete.

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Hey everyone, thanks for all the quick replies!

Definitely seems like oak or birch plywood will work fine, and a lot of suggestions for the satin Minwax Polyeurethane.

The plans just call for a single sheet of 3/4" plywood, but I do like the idea of doubling up the plywood. The plans also don't call for an edge treatment, but I like the idea to put trim around the edge, maybe with a little lip to prevent things from rolling off the edge. Brilliant!
 
I'm curious as well, that is a good looking butcher block for a hair over a hundred bucks.
 
Hmm yeah, for my size of bench (34x72) the butcher block option is probably out...but a great idea nonetheless.
 
I used a piece of butcher block grained Formica counter top. The guy across the street was jerking his older counter tops out, threw this one outside for the trash, when he went back inside, I snagged it. It even has the back splash on it. To get my press to fit, I cut out that rounded piece in the front, then the sides of the cut out part, I cut those at an angle, in case I needed to adjust things. I wood rasped the edges smooth, drilled holes and we've reloaded hundreds off that table top. I had an old plywood top, splintered in some places, took it back and threw it in his trash pile. :evil:
 
I would suggest checking craigslist. All sorts of building materials can be found for almost nothing. I know locally here in Nebraska theres a gentleman who runs a chainsaw mill and is always interested in trading reloading related items for wood. Might be someone like this around your area to get the 1 of a kind chunk you need!
 
Or, use doubled 3/4" cheap grade plywood.

And a chunk of butcher-block Formica countertop covering at Home Depot glued down with Formica cement!

Cheaper then real butcher-block, more resistant to damage, easier to clean, and just as good if not better in all respects if you are not a butcher cutting meat on it!

Regardless of all that?
Go the lightest color you can, or even better, solid white.

Much easier to see a little spilled power, dropped primer, or the priming arm spring that bounced off your bifocals and landed on the dark color bench when you get my age!!

rc
 
A lip around the edge is nice, but it also makes cleanup harder. Consider making one end without the lip so you can sweep into a dustpan or trash can.
 
i got a solid core hospital-style door from the maintenance guy at a local nursing home. it had some very minor scratches and they replaced them. makes a great bench top.
 
The last bench I built has 2 3/4in plywood sheet glued and screwed down together. After a couples years the plywood had a few minor dings and stains but was telling me that more were to come.:uhoh:

I added a 1/8in sheet of hardboard masonite on top. As it becomes used, abused and dirty it will be easy to replace but interestingly it's very resistant to any abuse it's been subjected to. The very hard and smooth surface is ideal. It's easy to clean, easy to card spilled powder into a neat pile for pick up.
 
I used the same bench plans as you did, but modified it to my liking. I made the bench much deeper, and a full 8' long. I now have two built (one for reloading, and one for gunsmithing). I used the cabinet grade 3/4" plywood with a 2x6 under the front like the prints say. I used a blond stain with poly mixed in to keep the natural look of wood, and highlight the darker grain. I also canned the cabinets up top for a peg board, and top to hang a shop light.

Here's a pic from about 4yrs ago before I mounted my shop light, and got everything setup.
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