Worn Lee 4 hole turret?

[fralic76]

Had to replace the ratchet on my press at 2500 rounds. Thought it was worn , but now I'm thinking the turret is worn a bit. I say this because I have 5 different calibers that I reload for and the only one that over indexes is my 9mm setup. This turret has 1500 rounds on it. When I try the other turrets it is fine.

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[2011redrider]

Well, last time I bought some spare ratchets they were 50 cents, and the turret heads are about 12 bucks. So for 2500 rounds it sounds like a cheap fix.

 

[fralic76]

Did replace the ratchet but I'm having issues with 1 of the turrets. I have 5 different ones.

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[ArchAngelCD]

I have turrets with well over 10X the reloads you say are on the troubled one. I highly doubt it's the turret.

 

[fralic76]

If it not the turret then what is making that 1 to over index then.

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[ArchAngelCD]

It's almost impossible to know without seeing it work. Has the same turret been a problem since it was new?

 

[ljnowell]

Readjust the indexing.

 

[fralic76]

It's almost impossible to know without seeing it work. Has the same turret been a problem since it was new?

No it has just started

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[Lafitte]

My thouht on it is that wear on the system would cause under indexing if anything. Try adjusting the indexing and see if you find a point where all turrets index properly. If not, replace the offending turret.

Lafitte

 

[BigBore45]

I'm gonna say the indexing is a bit advanced and that turret is just broken in and spins a bit easier than the others.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Readjust the indexing.

I would have said the same except the OP said his other turrets are not doing it.

 

[VoodooMountain]

Buy another head, new dies, and see if it continues. I have never heard of a turret wearing but I suppose it's possible.

My only other thought is you are short stroking with 9mm.

 

[ATLDave]

I can make my LCT over-rotate if I really slam the lever up/ram down when I have a heavy load of dies, full powder hopper, etc., especially if I have recently cleaned and lubricated the turret/frame interface. But that's a good reminder not to slam the cartridge down at the bottom of the stroke... really nothing good is going to come of bouncing loaded primers off the priming arm repeatedly.

 

[Rule3]

Take the turret indexing rod out of the press.

Put the "bad" turret in and see how it "indexes" manually (turn it by hand)

If it lines up correctly then my guess is the center hole is worn somehow,

As mentioned, cheap fix replace the turret.

Now of course if you use a LFCD then that has to be the problem!

(that is a joke folks)

 

[mdi]

I think if a turret were to wear from auto-indexing it would be the square hole where the indexing rod fits. My fix; 14 years ago I removed all the auto-indexing parts and just hand index. Several thousand reloads later, still works great...

 

[ljnowell]

I would have said the same except the OP said his other turrets are not doing it.

I have some turrets that need adjusted different than others. I'm guessing it's just manufacturing differences.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I have some turrets that need adjusted different than others. I'm guessing it's just manufacturing differences.

But if you adjust the rod for the one turret won't that throw the other turrets off that were working correctly?

 

[shooter1]

It takes only seconds to adjust the index. That would be my course of action. I fail to see a problem here.
str1

 

[kcofohio]

fralic76, have you checked the spring loaded ball that catches the indexing detents?

There is the possibility of debris stopping the ball from being extended all the way out. And if by chance your problem turret has more wear, or deeper detent grooves. Just a thought

 

[fralic76]

kcofohio, I have checked the dent ball and spring. I have an extra turret coming and will try it with the dies I have to see if that was the problem.

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[bukijin]

Are you using the "auto disk powder measure"?

Try positioning it more over the middle of the 4 hole turret instead of sitting out sideways from it. When it is full of powder it can build up some momentum. I find the swivel adapter helps.

 

[Duvel]

But if you adjust the rod for the one turret won't that throw the other turrets off that were working correctly?

One would think so, but in reality the answer is maybe not.

The turrets are cast, and while the bulk of the surface is post-machined pretty, the underside where the index-rod hex nut keys in is a bit rough. Initial seating (fitting, getting the turret to sit on the rod) of the rod could yield some variance in "clocking".

That, with a bit of break in, and having the index slightly off could cause one turret to over index, and the others to not.

Adjust the offending turret to index properly, and I bet the others will index correctly as well.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I guess it couldn't hurt. I adjusted mine over 10 years ago and never had to touch it again. Some if the turrets have many 10s of thousands of rounds on them.

 

[mdi]

There is "slop" (as machinists call it) in the auto-index linkage and the turret locates on an indent with a spring loaded ball. Adjustment to .001" aren't necessary as the indents and balls dictate final position of the turret...

 

[splattergun]

One would think so, but in reality the answer is maybe not.

The turrets are cast, and while the bulk of the surface is post-machined pretty, the underside where the index-rod hex nut keys in is a bit rough. Initial seating (fitting, getting the turret to sit on the rod) of the rod could yield some variance in "clocking".

That, with a bit of break in, and having the index slightly off could cause one turret to over index, and the others to not.

Adjust the offending turret to index properly, and I bet the others will index correctly as well.

This is the correct answer.