Agree, but again, off topic.The problem is not the gun, but how society reacts to their problems. Passing more gun laws won't work, criminals don't follow the law anyway. I think education is the key. Teach gun safety in high schools. Teach family values. Teach respect.
How, pray tell?
Rob recommends a semi-auto of at least ten rounds capacity, with no separate manual safety 9mm, by the way. He does not say to not carry a revolver--but don't try to take one to his classes. Revolvers would not work in the drills he teaches.
Tom is on much the same wave length. He has recommended against five shot revolvers.
This topic is germane to the thread only as it pertains to the recommendation to limit lawful carry for self defense to revolvers.
The question was about the idea of a single criminal code for all states and territories. That's really a constitutional issue.
The discussion of gun control and limitations, penalties, etc, is not germane to that topic.
If there is more to be said on it that was put forth in Post #27, I'd like to hear it.
Posted beforeI read Frank's note, edited to point out the single connection to the legal issue.We've already been spanked by the mods for being off-topic, Kleanbore.
Some countries have a single criminal code so there is no conflict between the state and federal laws. If this were the case in the US, would there be fewer instances of different codes creating questions about what is legal, not legal, etc?
This.We already have a universal code. Ten laws, supplemented by one overriding covenant that, if followed, makes it easy to follow the ten.
It is sad that you think their are only 2 choices. Law abiding gun owners don't violate laws, the people that do commit acts, don't care what laws they violate. Your choice of do nothing, or do something to get rid of guns, is fallacious at best. How about we allow more freedom, then, when someone wants to do something horrible, it gets stopped instantly.There are only really two choices here. Do nothing and allow the carnage to continue. Or do something that works. I have a few ideas, but don't feel like getting flamed this early.
Yet his mother told authorities that he was going to commit suicide by cop a year ago, they investigated and said they found nothing. Yet they took away a shotgun he had and never returned it. But he was a good boy, and never did nothing!He was a perfectly normal person, right up to the moment he snapped. Ever see the movie "Falling Down"?
Ok here goes...
We've tried half measures in the past. Magazine limits and assault weapon bans. This never works as there are already millions of these weapons and mags out there. We have reached a point in our society where drastic measures are called for. Back in the seventies, when I attended high school, many of us had long guns on racks in our trucks. Nobody ever thought of taking one into the school and killing as many as possible. Something has changed. Exactly what is a subject for debate, but the fact is, people are more violent and mentally unstable today than in days gone by.
Something that would substantially reduce the carnage in America is an outright ban on all semi-auto weapons with a detachable magazine. Ten round mags are just a half measure as one can reload another ten in just a couple of seconds. How many ten round mags can you carry in your pockets? The possession of these weapons would be a felony and the penalties would be severe. Of course a government buy back of existing weapons would be in order. Single shot, lever, pump, and bolt action work just fine for hunting. Revolvers for self defense.
I know all the arguments. One of my favorites is that we need our assault weapons to defend against government tyranny. This is nonsense as THEY have armed drones and REAL weapons of war. The second amendment would remain intact, but all rights and freedoms have limits. Again, do something that will actually work, or allow the madness to continue.
Take out the violent drug gang activity from 4 US cities and the violent crime rate is lower than just about every other western country. We do not have a violent crime problem. we have a justice problem that keeps releasing them
Ok here goes...
We've tried half measures in the past. Magazine limits and assault weapon bans. This never works as there are already millions of these weapons and mags out there. We have reached a point in our society where drastic measures are called for. Back in the seventies, when I attended high school, many of us had long guns on racks in our trucks. Nobody ever thought of taking one into the school and killing as many as possible. Something has changed. Exactly what is a subject for debate, but the fact is, people are more violent and mentally unstable today than in days gone by.
Something that would substantially reduce the carnage in America is an outright ban on all semi-auto weapons with a detachable magazine. Ten round mags are just a half measure as one can reload another ten in just a couple of seconds. How many ten round mags can you carry in your pockets? The possession of these weapons would be a felony and the penalties would be severe. Of course a government buy back of existing weapons would be in order. Single shot, lever, pump, and bolt action work just fine for hunting. Revolvers for self defense.
I know all the arguments. One of my favorites is that we need our assault weapons to defend against government tyranny. This is nonsense as THEY have armed drones and REAL weapons of war. The second amendment would remain intact, but all rights and freedoms have limits. Again, do something that will actually work, or allow the madness to continue.
If passing laws could make crime go away, don't you think we would already be living in a paradise?Do nothing and allow the carnage to continue. Or do something that works.
Oh....My....God. Ok. I shouldn’t. But I’ll play a round. It’s 2021. 2nd Amendment was signed into law Dec 15th 1791. Basically 230 years ago. Since then, the government has done very little to increase 2A freedoms. I would argue it’s only worked to restrict (infringe on) that freedom. Yet, here we sit, with all this so called carnage. 230 years of law after law. So if all the laws currently on the book didn’t reduce the carnage, why do you think more laws would?Ok here goes...
We've tried half measures in the past. Magazine limits and assault weapon bans. This never works as there are already millions of these weapons and mags out there. We have reached a point in our society where drastic measures are called for. Back in the seventies, when I attended high school, many of us had long guns on racks in our trucks. Nobody ever thought of taking one into the school and killing as many as possible. Something has changed. Exactly what is a subject for debate, but the fact is, people are more violent and mentally unstable today than in days gone by.
Something that would substantially reduce the carnage in America is an outright ban on all semi-auto weapons with a detachable magazine. Ten round mags are just a half measure as one can reload another ten in just a couple of seconds. How many ten round mags can you carry in your pockets? The possession of these weapons would be a felony and the penalties would be severe. Of course a government buy back of existing weapons would be in order. Single shot, lever, pump, and bolt action work just fine for hunting. Revolvers for self defense.
I know all the arguments. One of my favorites is that we need our assault weapons to defend against government tyranny. This is nonsense as THEY have armed drones and REAL weapons of war. The second amendment would remain intact, but all rights and freedoms have limits. Again, do something that will actually work, or allow the madness to continue.
Sure. Laws don’t prevent crime. They only define it and provide consequences for convictions.Can anybody explain why the places
with the most strict of gun laws such
as DC and Chicago and NYC and many
European countries have more crime
than places where the honest citizens
can defend themselves with lethal
force when necessary?
Then we need to enact more laws until you’re sure it will. It’s the only way. Let’s start with making it illegal to assault you. That should completely prevent the attack, right?I don't think a federal law would save me though.