SilentStalker
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Ok, I have been hearing a lot of talk about this for like the last year and about a month ago or so a buddy of mine at the ATF told me that this is going to happen as they have already had paperwork handed down to them from the top. I have heard many different stories about this and am not sure what to believe with this. I have many concerns with this as you find towards the bottom of this post. What is your input? Please read below and see link:
An ACT relating to firearms and ammunition; requiring [AGENCY] to establish a statewide
database to track coded ammunition manufactured and sold for handguns and assault rifles.
Section 1. Legislative Findings.
The State Legislature hereby finds the following:
Each year in the United States, more than 30% of all homicides that involve a gun go
unsolved.
Handgun ammunition accounts for 80% of all ammunition sold in the United States.
Current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has
worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by
law enforcement.
Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons
of interest in gun crime investigations.
Section 2. Definitions.
For purposes of this chapter, “coded ammunition” means a bullet carrying a
unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile.
Section 3. Prohibition on possession or sale of non-coded ammunition.
1. All handgun and assault weapon ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after
January 1, 2009, shall be coded by the manufacturer.
a. The calibers covered by the coding requirement shall include:[list
CALIBERS].
2. No later than January 1, 2011, all non-coded ammunition for the calibers listed in this
chapter, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, must be disposed.
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm <http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm>
Now here is my problems with this:
1) if this were to pass and I were to purchase this serialized ammo and took it to the range then whose to say someone else would not find a casing from ammo that has been registered to me and reload it? Does nobody see a problem with this? I don't see how this could ever work as there are too many variable to go wrong.
2) I fail to see how this helps anything at all. People that kill people do not really seem to care if they get caught so obviously people that are that screwed in the head are not going to think twice about this ammo thing anyways. So, what is the point? I mean think gangbangers, severely distressed people, etc. etc.
3) Think about how much time, money, labor, resources this would take to do such a task. I mean keeping up with gun sales is one thing and they have a hard enough time doing that, but now we are talking every single piece of ammo? I mean come on.
4) How in the world does this help anything if someone did decide to shoot someone and pick-up their casings or dig them out if they have to? I mean then there is still no evidence left behind? So, it really isn't better than the system they have now is it? No casing, no serial number = no link to anyone.
I fail to see how this is going to help anything besides possibly creating a few more jobs. Aside from that they think that hardened criminals who can get firearms legally or illegally cannot get ammo marked or unmarked? Get real. I think that this is just ludicrous. The sad thing is my state seems to be one of the supporters of this which is crazy considering that I think I live in one of the most lenient states there is for firearms.
An ACT relating to firearms and ammunition; requiring [AGENCY] to establish a statewide
database to track coded ammunition manufactured and sold for handguns and assault rifles.
Section 1. Legislative Findings.
The State Legislature hereby finds the following:
Each year in the United States, more than 30% of all homicides that involve a gun go
unsolved.
Handgun ammunition accounts for 80% of all ammunition sold in the United States.
Current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has
worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by
law enforcement.
Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons
of interest in gun crime investigations.
Section 2. Definitions.
For purposes of this chapter, “coded ammunition” means a bullet carrying a
unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile.
Section 3. Prohibition on possession or sale of non-coded ammunition.
1. All handgun and assault weapon ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after
January 1, 2009, shall be coded by the manufacturer.
a. The calibers covered by the coding requirement shall include:[list
CALIBERS].
2. No later than January 1, 2011, all non-coded ammunition for the calibers listed in this
chapter, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, must be disposed.
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm <http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm>
Now here is my problems with this:
1) if this were to pass and I were to purchase this serialized ammo and took it to the range then whose to say someone else would not find a casing from ammo that has been registered to me and reload it? Does nobody see a problem with this? I don't see how this could ever work as there are too many variable to go wrong.
2) I fail to see how this helps anything at all. People that kill people do not really seem to care if they get caught so obviously people that are that screwed in the head are not going to think twice about this ammo thing anyways. So, what is the point? I mean think gangbangers, severely distressed people, etc. etc.
3) Think about how much time, money, labor, resources this would take to do such a task. I mean keeping up with gun sales is one thing and they have a hard enough time doing that, but now we are talking every single piece of ammo? I mean come on.
4) How in the world does this help anything if someone did decide to shoot someone and pick-up their casings or dig them out if they have to? I mean then there is still no evidence left behind? So, it really isn't better than the system they have now is it? No casing, no serial number = no link to anyone.
I fail to see how this is going to help anything besides possibly creating a few more jobs. Aside from that they think that hardened criminals who can get firearms legally or illegally cannot get ammo marked or unmarked? Get real. I think that this is just ludicrous. The sad thing is my state seems to be one of the supporters of this which is crazy considering that I think I live in one of the most lenient states there is for firearms.
