Would You Buy....?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Confederate, Jul 14, 2014.

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I'd Like to See Handgun Magazines...

Poll closed Aug 13, 2014.
  1. STAY AS THEY ARE. No one is interested in a handgun they can't just go out and buy!

    7 vote(s)
    13.2%
  2. INCLUDE OUT OF PRODUCTION GUNS. People want to see articles about handguns they may own.

    31 vote(s)
    58.5%
  3. A MAGAZINE GEARED ONLY TOWARDS OUT-OF-PRODUCTION HANDGUNS.

    4 vote(s)
    7.5%
  4. PUBLISH A QUARTERLY, TWO ISSUES FOR CLASSIC REVOVLERS AND TWO FOR CLASSIC AUTOS.

    11 vote(s)
    20.8%
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  1. Confederate

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    While browsing the magazine rack in your local book store, your eyes automatically scan the section on handguns. There, amidst the bright, glossy photos of the latest plastic uber wonders and the flashy headers heralding "torture tests" or tips to improve your footwork when you shoot, you see it peeking out at you--a blast from the past. Picking the magazine up, you see a photo of a stainless Ruger Security-Six on the cover...no, two of them, the the other a sleek stainless version of a Speed-Six.

    You pick up the magazine and notice that the ads are different. More white space throughout the publication. You find the cover article and it tells the history of the "Six" series of guns, beginning with Bill Ruger's decision to build a strong, solid .357 that could compete with Smith & Wesson and Colt, and which would begin with a blank sheet of paper. Towards the end, the article then briefly describes the development of the GP-100.

    Throughout the rest of the magazine, you see brief reviews of new handguns hitting the market as well as articles highlighting both in-production and out-of-production handguns.

    Questions: Would you be likely to buy or subscribe to such a magazine, and would you prefer to have the magazines published in b&W or color? Glossy pages or stock? Or do you prefer only to see magazines review only new handguns, or in-production handguns?

    Thanks for your feedback!
     
  2. Ed Ames

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    Huh? Do you mean like a web page printed out on paper? Or is this a time travel quiz?

    Magazines are where I keep the bullets I haven't fired yet.

    I definitely prefer matte (not glossy) color screens. I don't care what is reviewed when, so long as the reviews are indexed and searchable. I'm not going to read a review just because it is there. I will seek out reviews when making a buy/don't buy decision about a specific item. Same with the rest of the content. Make it searchable. Use a content management system so I can tailor the content to my interests (I don't care about tree stands, put every type of article in its own channel and let me tune out the ones I don't care about). Update daily with new content if you can. What would I do with hard copies? I don't have a parrot so cage lining material has no value in my life.
     
  3. buck460XVR

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    I've gotten so I don't buy any gun rags anymore. To easy to find better unbiased reviews online. Seems that cover guns get great reviews and also generally have a high priced full page ad close to the positive review. Kinda seems to taint the paint. Most gun rags nowadays have the same ol-same old anecdotes that they had 40 years ago. While they sometimes have legitimate articles, many times the advertising pages outnumber the reading by more than 2 to one. Sometimes iffin I'm bored and see one with a article pertaining to something that interests me, I might pluck it from the shelf, but as for subscriptions, no. Handloader is one I do subscribe to tho..........
     
  4. gunsablazin

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    The only gun mag I subscribe to anymore is "Gun Tests" it's a consumer reports for shooters, they don't take ads from manufacturers, and report on new and used guns as they actually perform. It is not a glossy, pretty publication, but it does make an effort to help shooters make purchasing decisions based on real world testing. In my opinion most of the more well known magazines "gloss" over guns that don't work due to advertising issues. I'm an NRA member, and it's very rare for them to say anything bad about a gun they've tested in their publications. My two cents.
     
  5. PBR Streetgang

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    I own a couple of Ruger Security Sixes and even tho they are close to 40 years old I still would prefer one over my newer GP-100....Btw one of the SS's spent a good deal of time on my hip as a young police officer........their actions could be slicked up comparable to the S&W K-frame target guns of the time..
     
  6. bannockburn

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    I could see a quarterly publication which switched between classic revolvers and classic autos, and not just U.S. production only; I would want to also see foreign manufactured guns as well. Anything new and possible future designs I can find online.
     
  7. Onward Allusion

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    I hope you are talking about an ezine and not the paper kind . . . I haven't purchased a magazine in years.
     
  8. Confederate

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    Well, we may be headed for paperless magazines now, but the magazines I see on the racks now all look pretty much the same. In fact, my wife just brought up a couple of years worth of old gun magazines from 2011. "Get rid of the ones you don't want," she said, menacingly. "There are too many magazines downstairs."

    I went through them all and ended up chucking them all. One after the other, they all seemed to be the same, look the same, and none of the articles were written well at all, but seemed, rather, to be filled in templates. Even though there's a photo of the gun that spans one and a half pages, the writers describe the gun as though we were blind! The days of Bill Jordan, Skeeter Skelton and others have evaporated.

    There's not a magazine writer alive who will say, "This was a lousy gun. When it didn't jam, it shot twenty inches to the left of the point of aim." That's because their magazines get big buck ads from these companies, and if one gun doesn't work, the company sends another one right out. But as a good friend, a Beretta rep, told me when asked, "Well, you don't think we'd send out a gun without making sure it worked, do you?"

    I also have a thing for black & white. I think photos of guns look better.

    Now GUN TESTS is an exception to this. My problem with them is that they accept NO advertising. I'm not against advertising in magazines. It greatly helps in defraying the costs of the publication. There's no reason that BreakFree, motor oils, knives, magazines, silver/gold, flashlights/batteries, gun sights, holsters and similar items can't be advertised. Just not guns or ammo. And in computer magazines, I've seen full page ads for computers that have been thoroughly trashed by that magazine, so it's...complicated.
     
  9. TennJed

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    Are you asking which type of printed magazine would I buy? The answer is none. I don't and unless they came with samples of 22 ammo I am not sure I would ever be tempted to buy one again. Kind of like a VHS tape. No need for them anymore
     
  10. Praxidike

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    Honestly, I wouldn't buy any magazine. If one caught my eye in the store, I most likely would browse it, put it back, and Google and/or go to web forums for more information. To much free information out there to have to pay for it.

    You'd be better served by creating an online website/magazine and charge for advertisement and referrals. It would prob. be more profitable, would reach more people, and would have lower overhead. Buy hosting and a domain name, buy software or use free software like Wordpress or Drupal for example, and hire a designer/developer.
     
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  11. gunsablazin

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    As a journeyman printing press operator I would encourage all of you guys to buy magazines. :D
     
  12. GBExpat

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    I gave up buying such magazines about 25 years ago. I still receive my American Rifleman magazine, but I only quickly peruse it prior to "filing" it.

    FWIW, if I were to buy such a mag I would be only interested in a color version with the hyperbole dialed WAY down ... like to zero. ;)
     
  13. benzy2

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    Honestly, I wouldn't buy any of them. The info tends to be easily obtainable online and you never see a bad review. The pictures are pretty, but YouTube videos are more fun than pretty pictures.
     
  14. Captcurt

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    I'm with Buck. The new rags are put together by writers who pimp themselves out to the highest bidder. Most articles are about some high-dollar gun donated for review. I saw one review where they compared a $2000+ rifle (Sig Sauer) with some $600-$1000 rifles. The Sig got the nod even though the groups shot at 100 yards were atrocious. The cheaper rifles, I'm talking under a grand, shot sub-MOA while the Sig was 2-3". If I paid $2000 for a rifle, it had better shoot 1/2" groups or I am going to have a fit!

    Same thing with the handgun magazines. You see Kimbers and such reviewed in droves while the average Joe can't or won't shell out that kind of money for a high dollar handgun. How many reviews have you seen on a Sars K2P or a CZ-75? You can still buy a decent firearm without breaking the bank. Both the CZ and the Sars are excellent buys BTW.
     
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  15. mgmorden

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    I have to admit I sat there and stared at the poll for a while before I figured he meant those paper things too.

    I voted for option #1, but frankly a printed magazine is about as quaint and old fashioned as a Webley at this point, so if they want then sure, put old guns in there. I don't think I've bought or looked at a print magazine in probably 15+ years now.
     
  16. Bobson

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    I voted "Stay as they are," but I totally disagree with the add-on: No one is interested in a handgun they can't just go out and buy!

    Countless people are interested in guns they "can't just go out and buy." The entire area of NFA items comes to mind. Sure, you can get NFA items, but you can't just go buy one right off a rack. Similarly, I can just go out and buy a gun whether it's out of production or not - I just have to find a willing seller. Anyway, this isn't really relevant to the question, which is primarily why I disagree with it.

    What is important is that while many people are interested in guns that aren't in current production, there are nearly infinite ways to get information on those guns - including articles written about them at the time they were new. The internet, for example. There's enough to discuss in the world of firearms without gun rags diverting to publishing extensive articles about guns that stopped being manufactured 10, 20, 30+ years ago.

    If someone wanted to create a niche gun rag that covered out-of-production guns, I'd say go for it. I'm sure it would have a fairly loyal following. That said, I would not like to see some of the popular gun rags start including articles of that type.
     
  17. NormH3

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    as long as the centerfold doesn't have a staple in the trigger guard....
     
  18. Deltaboy1984

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    4 times a year cover some Classics.
     
  19. Mike J

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    I agree with the others that you would probably be better off setting up a website. The only gun magazine I get is American Rifleman. I am too cheap to spend the money for magazines at the grocery store when I can get the same information online.
     
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