Would you do this to a mosin?

[alemonkey]

I thought it was nicely done, I don't see what the problem is. You guys are going to hate what I'm doing to one right now (just waiting on that Lothar Walther barrel)

 

[Duke of Doubt]

Of course he has the right to do that. He has the right to paint his '55 T Bird with lime green latex wall paint, too.

So Mosins are cheap now. All-matching German Mausers used to be far cheaper than Mosins are today, and now are worth thousands, a couple decades after they ran out -- UNLESS they've been Bubba'd. Then they're practically worthless, except for the few original parts which remain.

Twenty years from now, original Mosins will go for about a grand, maybe a little less. Unless Bubba "improved" them, in which case they will go for about what they do now -- or less. Compare Mausers, Arisakas, Springfields, Enfields, Carcanos, etc. Mosins were merely the last ones in, because of the Cold War.

 

[Deckard]

Tons of guns get a bad rap when the getting is good, its when the supply dries up that people realize what they missed out on.

 

[xmenm05]

All depends (IMHO) on purpose. If you want "original" army rifle, leave it as it is. If you want cheap gun for fun or work (hunting etc.) than any improvement which helps to meet the purpose is ok ... .
I bought mine M44 for hunting, so I will exchange the stock, mount the scope ...

 

[notorious]

This is an old topic on every Mosin forum, including 7.62x54R and SurplusRifles... and just like all the other forums, it's the yes v. no and nobody is going to win.

I own two Mosins and I know there is no such thing as "collector" value in a Mosin that was electro-penciled and import marked to death, not to mention re-arsenal'ed anyway and that there are more than 17 million made worldwide.

On the other hand, I also am not the type to spend more than what the base material cost to build on it, and that sentiment includes everything, including cars and motorcycles.

I have no idea why anyone would pay $5,000 for a beater Civic and then dump $30,000 into rims, paint, stereos, etc. just to have a fancy $5,000 Civic. Then again, its not my car, so why do I care? I got my ultra-expensive and bone stock Euro-mobile, the way I like it.

In the end, it's not my rifle and he can do whatever he wants, but I won't do it.

 

[ken B]

"Taking two times three shots with re-built mosin-nagant. It has Finnish-made barrel (7.62x53R) renewd in 1968, shirstone 3-9x32 scope and a range stock. ">>>>


I guess this wasn't an M39, but there are M39 (if memory serves me correctly) that are marked with 1968 barrels...which go for FAR more than a run of the mill rearsenal 91/30 from the Ukraine or whereever...least over here....
http://www.mosinnagant.net/FinnishMosinNagantNumbers.asp
this reputable site puts them at a very low number total, 3000-3500 total....i mean to me (yes it's your gun do what you wish) that kinda sucks considering there were how many 91/30s made between 1942-1945 alone...

http://www.gunsamerica.com/917574779/Guns/Rifles/Mosin-Nagant-Rifles-Carbines/1968_Finn_M39.htm

just not my cup of tea...

 

[Brian41]

not a chance...


but i'd do this...

 

[Ignition Override]

Nope.
Would never even consider doing that to a military rifle.

The one on YouTube lost much of its character, but let's look at the bright side.
It might earn grudging approval by some of the "professional leftists" in Madison, WI, Berkeley, CA or Boston, MA.

 

[Kymasabe]

NOT BUBBA'D....Read ShotGun News.

If anyone has the DEc 29th, 2008 issue of Shotgun News, that Mosin is listed on page 40, for sale, thru TG International Inc. and is listed as a Finnish Mosin Nagant Model 28/76 Marksmanship Rifle. Used by the Finnish Army for marksmanship qualifications, military competition, and sniper training. They're listed for $900.

 

[mordechaianiliewicz]

That was just foolish. Seriously. Not so much because I think it's wrong to mod out a MN, but because the mods were so dubious at best.

 

[mr.trooper]

The stock on the rifle in the OP is a work of ART!

Im going to have to classify this as alchemy. How else could you take a TURD and trans mutate it into something that so closely mimics gold?

 

[toivo]

I guess this wasn't an M39, but there are M39 (if memory serves me correctly) that are marked with 1968 barrels...

And 1969 and 1970. I have a 1970. It's not any kind of sniper rifle or modernized in anyway--just the standard M39 miiltary design, but dated 1970 on the barrel. These are sometimes called "sneak" rifles, based on the theory that the Finns were secretly manufacturing them out of fear of another Soviet invasion. I believe this theory is wrong: Why would Finland secretly make M39s when they were openly making Valmet AK clones?

 

[chris in va]

So ah, we can't modify a 57 Chevy or a 67 Corvette?

Come on. If the gun is mass produced and fairly cheap, why not make it better.

But I agree the Mosin action isn't the best by a long shot.

 

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Uhhhhhhhh. Yeah. Cause there aren't millions more for $100 everywhere. I would understand it if he had done that to a better rifle, such as a finnish mosin, but he didn't.

I actually think that looks pretty damn good.

So ah, we can't modify a 57 Chevy or a 67 Corvette?

Come on. If the gun is mass produced and fairly cheap, why not make it better.

They used to say that about Springfields and Mausers.

 

[Doc_Jude]

It's his gun, they're terribly cheap, I bought two for about $200(fees & all), one was nice & one was *REALLY* nice, the manager that released them to me was looking at them when I came to pick them up (after the waiting period) kept working the action of the better one and kinda balked when I asked him to box it up so I could leave (I had somewhere to be). I think he realized that that particular gun should not have been in the 2-for-1 special. I'm hoping to get some good optics for it soon and see how accurate it actually is.

Me, I love them stock, I wouldn't "sporterize" a Mosin, but I've seen nice Mosins sporterized and they looked really nice. Who cares? To each his own.

 

[Joe Demko]

A man has a right to do as he pleases with his own property. Just as I have the right to point and laugh at him.

 

[BobOfTheFuture]

I cant tell if that is a real mark. rifle or not, but listen, theres nothing wrong with modding any old rifle, you just have to go about it like logging companys are with trees-

For every one you bubba, you must buy and keep 2 others original.

Sounds like a plan to me

 

[Revy2k]

Sorry, but the the 1 guy pictured with the long hair is nearing a special level of insanity: "Special Tactical"
(and hell no my Mosin is staying just the way it is... Cosmoline is the new black - didn't you know? )

 

[Clipper]

In my ongoing M-N (1942 Tula with great rifling and matching numbers) project, I have settled on a goal of an 18" barreled, Mannlicher-stocked end product, with butterknife bolt handle of my own design, and the left rear reciever modified to receive a Williams FP peep sight.

I can't wait to hear the howls of anguish from the milsurp snobs here...

 

[notorious]

I am going to put the scout scope setup on my M44 but I am leaving the stock and everything else original, especially the folding bayonet.

 

[dirtyjim]

i'd do that to my mosins but i'm one of those butchers that all the purists & collectors hate.
timneys going to start making triggers this year.
i'm still trying to figure out what barrel to use on this one, the finned madsen machine gun barrel or the maxim machine gun barrel.

 

[Big Bill]

I say restore them, don't change them. They are great slices of history. The same with SKSs.

 

[okespe04]

My Mosin and yugo sks are stock. I appreciate the history of them. Although I have seen some pretty cool mods. My favorite are the scout rifles.

 

[Deer Hunter]

I like that stock!

Also, I want to play build-a-rifle with Jim.

 

[Eightball]

I"ve seen worse sporterizations. Honestly, with his, if he got a good replacement barrel and some better-quality ammunition, and maybe some better glass, it might actually get somewhere--and I'd get a good chuckle if, with training and the "upgraded" sporter, he actually managed to outshoot some people in the USA with all their whiz-bangery.

No offense to anyone, but at least he picked a nice looking stock rather than those $20 plastic ones. Where'd it come from?