Wow, Alamo fought over slavery!

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The Alamo a Symbol of Slavery?
LAST UPDATE: 5/11/2005 10:30:26 AM
Posted By: Jim Forsyth
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(SAN ANTONIO) -- A claim on the children's cable TV outlet Nickelodeon that the 1836 Battle of the Alamo was fought so 'white farmers could keep their slaves' has sparked controversy and outrage in this city, where the Texans who died in the historic battle are held up as examples for people to emulate, 1200 WOAI news reported Tuesday.

The fifty second long piece on Nickelodeon, which is part of an ongoing series of features about the U.S. called 'My Back Yard," shows a San Antonio teenager telling the largely pre-teen audience that 'in the early 1800's, most of the people living in San Antonio were white farmers who brought their slaves with them.' It goes on to claim that conflict over slavery between slaveholding settlers and a Mexican government which had abolished slavery 'led up' to the Battle of the Alamo.

"I think its a shame that anybody would take that approach," Alamo Director David Stewart says. "I think its an insult to the Mexicans, the Tejanos, who fought for freedom and liberty in the Alamo as part of the defenders. It kind of slaps them in the face to claim that was the reason the battle took place."

E-mails obtained by WOAI radio show Alamo historian Dr. R. Bruce Winders, one of the country's leading experts on pre Civil War southwestern history, told Nickelodeon producers that the slavery claim was 'simplistic and inaccurate,' but the piece was aired anyway.

Mark Lyons, a senior producer for Nick News at Lucky Duck Productions in New York City, a contractor to Nickelodeon, which is a unit of Viacom, Inc. says the piece, called an 'interstitial,' was not meant to convey the full story of the Alamo.

"We recognize that there were several key issues in the Battle of the Alamo and one of them was slavery," Lyons said. "We want to tell our viewers something they may not have known, like the fact that at the time Texas was a part of Mexico."

Winders remains critical of the way the piece was presented.

"I think this is an extreme interpretation that was very one-sided as well as inaccurate," he said Monday. They replied that they wanted to get a Hispanic opinion of the battle. I pointed out that many people would not be able to tell that the piece was opinion and not fact, but they ran the story as it was."

Stewart says he hopes young people will not see the Alamo as a 'monument to slavery.'

"People decide to take their own slant on something and put it out there as fact when it's not necessarily fact," he said.

He also pointed out that the claim that 'most of the people' living in San Antonio in the 'early 1800s' were white farmers who brought their slaves with them' is also blatantly incorrect.

San Antonio, which had been the key urban center of the Spanish province and later the Mexican state of Coahuila y Tejas, was almost entirely made up of Spanish-speaking people of Mexican and Spanish descent in the years before 1836. In fact, with the exception of Jim Bowie, who had married into the most prominent Tejano family in San Antonio, almost none of the Anglos who died in the Battle of the Alamo had any connection to San Antonio whatsoever, and many, including Davy Crockett, had arrived in Texas less than a year before the battle. William Barret Travis, the commander of the Texian forces at the Alamo, for example, was born in South Carolina, grew up in Alabama, and lived in Anahuac and San Felipe Texas. He arrived in San Antonio for the first time in his life as part of the Texian militia sent to relieve Mexican General Martin Perfecto de Cos' siege of Bexar in October of 1835, just three months before the start of the Alamo siege. And while there was a scattering of slaves in the cotton growing regions of extreme southeast Texas, there were almost no slaves in the San Antonio area.

"The battle was fought here because Santa Anna had revoked the Constitution of 1824, and taken away the freedoms that the people came here to enjoy," Stewart said.

Winders says the slavery connection is a stretch at best, and mischaracterization as worst.

"The slavery issue was a factor but not the main one. The revolt in Texas started as an effort to restore the Federal Republic under the (Mexican) constitution of 1824, but quickly evolved into a separatist movement. Moreover, Texas had actually been granted an exemption to the slavery ban by the Mexican government, as long as they didn't call them slaves," he wrote to the Nickelodeon producers.

Stewart pointed out that the 'patron' system which existed in Mexico throughout the 19th century was in fact, slavery by a different name.

The Alamo is by far the number one tourist attraction in Texas and one of the most visited spots in the United States. The Alamo church, with its characteristic curved roofline, regularly appears along with the State of Liberty, the Gateway Arch in St. Louis, and the golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco as one of the most recognized American landmarks worldwide.

The perception of the Battle of the Alamo, which began with a siege by 5,000 Mexican regular army troops under General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna on February 23, 1836 and ended 13 days later when Santa Anna stormed the church, has evolved over time. In the 1960 movie starring John Wayne as Davy Crockett, the Alamo defenders are depicted as white heroes holding off a rabble of dark skinned marauders. Later depictions, leading up to the 2004 Disney movie starring Billy Bob Thornton in the Crockett role, have taken pains to explain the prominent role that Tejanos, Texans of Mexican descent, played in the battle, and explored the reasons Santa Anna, who is still universally despised in Mexico, played in the development of the American southwest.

Lyons says the Nickelodeon piece has run for about two weeks and has rotated out of the "My Back Yard" series. it is not expected to be aired again.


TRANSCRIPT OF NICKELODEON PROGRAM:

My name is Fabiola and I’m from San Antonio, Texas and the Alamo is in my backyard.

In 1718, the Mission of San Antonio de Valero was established.

The church structure is still standing today and it’s known as the Alamo.

The battle for the Alamo is often remembered as the rebellion of a small group of brave Texas farmers fighting against the Mexican army.

What you may not know is that at the time, Texas was a part of Mexico.

By the early 1800s, most of the people living in San Antonio were farmers who brought their slaves with them.

In 1829, Mexico abolished slavery and what followed was years of conflict between white farmers who wanted to keep their slaves and Mexican authorities.

This conflict led up to the battle for the Alamo.

In the end, General Santa Anna and 5000 Mexican soldiers surrounded the Alamo.

And all of the defenders of the mission were killed.

So, when you remember the Alamo, think of the soldiers, the battles and the true story behind it.

STATEMENT FROM NICKELODEON: The Nick News “In My Backyard†bumps are intended to portray different perspectives on various landmarks in local areas. In no way, did Nickelodeon mean to discredit the reasoning behind, or the defenders of the Battle of the Alamo. We realize that there were several reasons for the Battle. This segment focused on just one of the various conflicts which led up the event.
 
CT, is this not what the state museum in Austin admits? :confused: Texicans reneged on promises to give up their slaves, learn Spanish and convert to Catholism? :confused: (Or, maybe that was the excuse that the new Mexican government used)?

If the official state history acknowleges the role of slavery, I don't see how this is inaccurate. Maybe if they said slavery was "part" of the reason for the Alamo???
 
"By the early 1800s, most of the people living in San Antonio were farmers who brought their slaves with them."

"Most"? "Most"? That's as wonderful a re-write of history as I've seen in a long, long time.

Yes, some people in Texas in the 1823-1836 period had slaves. But just the demographics of where most Texians lived puts the lie to the claim about San Antonio. And let's just forget that most Texians were just too (bleep) poor to afford slaves.

MOST of the people living in San Antonio at the time of the Revolution were Mexican. MOST of the Anglos lived east, over in the Colorado River to Neches River areas. North from the main port of access at Galveston. I grant that Gonzales of "Come and take it" fame (on the Guadalupe River) is not all that far from San Antonio, but even today it's not exactly a suburb.

Actual farming development beyond the subsistence level really got going AFTER the Revolution. AFTER! As in the 1840s-1850s.

The first large-scale farming efforts began in the coastal area between what's now Houston and over around Columbus. My great-great grandfather married the sister of a Captain Frels who fought at San Jacinto. He had found some land not far from Houston in 1839; returned to Germany and got financial backing and bought the land in 1845. He later moved to Hallettsville.

Oh, well. Somebody's always gotta "correct" history...

Art
 
Addendum: A major cause for worry for the Mexican government was that Anglos were moving into Texas from Louisiana and Arkansas. Eastern Texas was becoming heavily "Americanized". Eastern, not what then was "the west" of the San Antonio area. The predominant Mexican trade route, besides via ships along the coast, was from the Matamoros area north to San Antonio.

Santa Anna was the Dictator of Mexico. He was not exactly beloved of either the citizens of Mexico south of the Rio Grande, or the Mexicans living in Texas. Rumor has it that he was descended from a long line of bachelors.

Santa Anna began applying edicts to ALL residents of Texas, whether Gringo or Mexican, which could be said to call to mind the Preamble to our own Bill of Rights: Abuse of power by the State.

A fair number of folks with Mexican surnames died at the Alamo, and fought in the Revolution. Their names are still honored today.

Art
 
By the early 1800s, most of the people living in San Antonio were farmers who brought their slaves with them.

In 1829, Mexico abolished slavery and what followed was years of conflict between white farmers who wanted to keep their slaves and Mexican authorities.

This conflict led up to the battle for the Alamo.

I dunno, Tejon, saying 'part of the reasons for conflict' probably would have helped alot. Reading the few lines above, it sounds like they made it seem that the sole reason for the Alamo was slavery.

And to think, we rate shows to keep kids from seeing (gasp) violence, and nudity, but nothing is rated to make sure the information they are presented as 'factual' actually is.
 
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