tulsamal
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I'm actually a little surprised but ABC just reported Rice is going to be the nominee to replace Powell.
Gregg
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Wow, Rice is the nominee
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Aguila Blanca
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Surprise!
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:yawn:
Cliff
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Correct me if I'm wrong,but she's a bit more hawkish then Powell was,right?
tulsamal
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I would say that's true. Powell was more inclined to seek international agreement. Rice has been a big believer in the Iraq war.
I would say it is probably bad news for Putin. He has been tightening his rule in Russia. Rice is a specialist in that area and speaks the language. She will be tougher to fool than somebody who was a specialist in other areas. Of course you could make the argument that we really need a specialist in the ME instead of Russia! She will need some good deputies with knowledge in that area.
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Lone_Gunman
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Colin Powell has not been too great of a Sec of State.
I think she will do at least as well.
It will be interesting to see how she does.
I think she will do at least as well.
It will be interesting to see how she does.
Lone_Gunman
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The Republicans won't nominate a black female as president. The Republicans have to continue to take the South, and a black female will have a hard time doing that.
She might end up as VP though.
She might end up as VP though.
Powell was a hinderance as Secy of State. He was the main force behind seeking approval at the UN, and he really acted like more of a celebrity than a Secy. He just didn't seem all that determined to do his job...whether he was a fan of the policy or not..
Rice will be better no doubt.
Rice will be better no doubt.
Zundfolge
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Lone_Gunman said:
If the alternative is Hillary you'll see Klansmen out voting for Rice.
Gordon Fink
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Lone_Gunman said:
It’s hard to be a good diplomat when your boss isn’t terribly interested in diplomacy.
~G. Fink
Lone_Gunman
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Many people will just stay home and not vote at all if that happens.
Byron Quick
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I think that Rice will probably do a good job.
I'm southern born and bred. I know a lot of white folk that would vote for Rice. To say they've been impressed is an understatement. And when the alternative is Frau Clinton...like the man said: Klansmen would be voting for Rice. I don't think she'd get as big a percentage of the white southern vote as Bush did. I think the percentage of the black southern vote would more than make up for it.
I also think that a black female would have the potential to win in some states that usually go to the Democrats.
But I basically agree with Lone Gunman...she'll probably be the VP candidate.
I'm southern born and bred. I know a lot of white folk that would vote for Rice. To say they've been impressed is an understatement. And when the alternative is Frau Clinton...like the man said: Klansmen would be voting for Rice. I don't think she'd get as big a percentage of the white southern vote as Bush did. I think the percentage of the black southern vote would more than make up for it.
I also think that a black female would have the potential to win in some states that usually go to the Democrats.
But I basically agree with Lone Gunman...she'll probably be the VP candidate.
Waitone
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She needs to prove herself as a politician before seeking top of the ticket.
As head of State department--good move. Looks like the purge is underway.
As head of State department--good move. Looks like the purge is underway.
CarlS
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I think Rice is a good person and a good choice. She seems to be a no BS type of person. And she is pro 2A. I am a born and bred Southerner and I would vote for her for President, especially if Hillary were the Dem candidate. She may well be the only person who could beat Hillary. The liberals don't like her and that is a good recommedation to me! 
Standing Wolf
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I think she'll do just fine—and good riddance to Colin Powell, another useless R.I.N.O.!
Otherguy Overby
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Politician as qualification?
I'm sorry, but this comment is a non-sequitur for me...
IOW, a "proven" politician is a real qualification?
I'm of the opinion that what we really don't need is yet another politician.
I'm sorry, but this comment is a non-sequitur for me...
IOW, a "proven" politician is a real qualification?
I'm of the opinion that what we really don't need is yet another politician.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Lone_Gunman said:
I don't think her being a black or a female is near as big a deal as the fact that she has never held elected office or been the center of a political campaign. Those two criteria mean she is effectively disqualified for now.
Brett Bellmore
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For the last four years, and the next four, she's getting the kind of experience you need to be a good President. The experience to be a good candidate you can buy. That's what people like Rove are for. And she's already got one up on Bush, in that she's articulate.
Kaylee
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Oh rock on!
I so want to see her on the ticket in '08! Heck... that'd be enough to make me pull the "R" lever for the second time in my life.
.. provided they don't do something stupid like put Guiliani on as top billing.
I so want to see her on the ticket in '08! Heck... that'd be enough to make me pull the "R" lever for the second time in my life.
.. provided they don't do something stupid like put Guiliani on as top billing.
2nd Amendment
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I think you may under estimate the South. I'll go out on a limb here and predict that the South would vote for her en masse. It would be the first time the Repubs come close to taking 50% of the black vote and WAY better than 50% of the female vote. I believe she would play VERY well to hispanics, too, but I may be wrong on that. I remember from college days a lot of animosity between blacks and Hispanics, but that was 20 years ago.
If her opposition were Hillary I'll feel safe in predicting it would be a VERY interesting election with one of the highest turnouts in our nation's history. Oh, and I believe she would OWN the white male vote... Personally it would be the first time I have felt good about voting for someone since Reagan's second term. Not great, but at least good.
If her opposition were Hillary I'll feel safe in predicting it would be a VERY interesting election with one of the highest turnouts in our nation's history. Oh, and I believe she would OWN the white male vote... Personally it would be the first time I have felt good about voting for someone since Reagan's second term. Not great, but at least good.
2nd Amendment
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Hmm, interesting thought: If Rice DOES run who could the Dems effectively field other than Hillary? Think about it. She's the only woman the Dems have with enough clout(forgetting her baggage for the moment) and I really believe the female vote would make any male opponent an also-ran from day one...
2nd Amendment
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Hmm, another interesting thought: Where would the Dem's anger be directed if they were to lose to Rice because the "intolerant, throwback, ignorant, redneck, Xenophobic, racist red states" voted decisively for a black female...especially if the competition were a white male who took the "progressive" blue states?
If Rice runs the Dems are almost forced to run Hillary, or find another strong female and, frankly, I can't think of a single one they have.
If Rice runs the Dems are almost forced to run Hillary, or find another strong female and, frankly, I can't think of a single one they have.
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