Wyoming Constitution carry passes.

[Buckeye Dan]

Constitutional Carry Now The Law In Wyoming

Wyoming --(Ammoland.com)- Wyoming is moving in the right direction, and it is because of men and women like you.

This afternoon, I watched as Governor Mead signed Constitutional Carry into law while saying his office had been clogged with emails and phone calls from people demanding he sign the Jennings-Jaggi Constitutional Carry bill.

Even though so called “political experts” say your activism doesn’t matter, today’s events show who has the real power in politics… You!

The rest of the story:
http://www.ammoland.com/2011/03/02/constitutional-carry-now-the-law-in-wyoming/

 

[elcaminoariba]

I thank God for this. We suffered for many years as the mobs of lefties and government elitists robbed us of our rights. GOA was the lone voice in the wilderness for MANY years with their article "Why Vermont Carry." I never thought it would come to pass. Now it's got momentum that we need to support.

 

[Pilot]

Thank goodness. Colorado's has passed the House. I hope it goes all the way. I was starting to fear states like CO, WY and MT were being overrun by Californians and turning them into similar socialist hell holes.

Go natives, and real American transplants!

 

[NavyLCDR]

Can someone explain this to me?

Wyomingites are still not allowed to defend themselves in their places of worship, where they teach their children, or even when out to eat with their family.

I don't particularly care for pro-Gun organizations exaggerating and grandstanding like the anti-gunners do. The actual prohibitions are:

http://legisweb.state.wy.us/statutes/statutes.aspx?file=titles/Title6/T6CH8.htm

(vii) Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic liquor and malt beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to that purpose;

(viii) Any place where persons are assembled for public worship, without the written consent of the chief administrator of that place;

While I don't agree with the prohibitions, I certainly don't feel they rise to the level of, "Wyomingites are still not allowed to defend themselves in their places of worship, ..., or even when out to eat with their family."

 

[41]

Congratulations Wyoming, and good luck Colorado. I hope that other states will follow your paths.

 

[Hanzerik]

While I don't agree with the prohibitions, I certainly don't feel they rise to the level of, "Wyomingites are still not allowed to defend themselves in their places of worship, ..., or even when out to eat with their family."

You CAN carry in a church with written permission of said church. You CAN defend yourself while out eating with your family. You just cannot CC in a bar, or bar area in restaurants. You CAN open carry in a bar with permission of said bar. So if you are in a place like Texas Roadhouse or Old Chicago, etc then just stay out of the bar area and you're good to go. You can even drink while CC'ing, just not impaired.

 

[Erik]

Well done, Wyoming.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Great news!

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

OH NO THE CHILDREN! THE HORROR THE HORROR!

Hoping that NH passes it soon, it was already heard, just waiting on the vote.

 

[NavyLCDR]

You CAN carry in a church with written permission of said church. You CAN defend yourself while out eating with your family. You just cannot CC in a bar, or bar area in restaurants. You CAN open carry in a bar with permission of said bar. So if you are in a place like Texas Roadhouse or Old Chicago, etc then just stay out of the bar area and you're good to go. You can even drink while CC'ing, just not impaired.

I was quoting Wyoming Gun Owners, "Wyoming's only no-compromise gun rights organization." My point was that I, personally, take exception when pro-gun groups use the same exaggeration and sensationalist tactics that the anti-gun groups do.

http://www.ammoland.com/tag/wyoming-gun-owners/

 

[XD Fan]

Congratulations to those of us you the got active on this issue and won in Wyoming!

 

[ricebasher302]

Been following this. Sent our new governor an email regarding it. He signed it. Hooray for my state!

 

[Diamondback6]

Two questions:
1. How long 'til the guys at Handgunlaw.US catch up?
2. This good for nonresidents, too, so I can remove another one from the "CCW Reciprocity Chess BS" list?

 

[harrygunner]

Here are links we can read:

The Wyoming "Permitless Carry" bill just signed - http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2011/Engross/SF0047.pdf modifies section 6‑8‑104 of this document - http://legisweb.state.wy.us/statutes/compress/title06.doc

Sub-paragraph 6 (i) reads:

Is a resident of the United States and has been a resident of Wyoming for not less than six (6) months prior to filing the application. The Wyoming residency requirements of this paragraph do not apply to any person who holds a valid permit authorizing him to carry a concealed firearm authorized and issued by a governmental agency or entity in another state that recognizes Wyoming permits and is a valid statewide permit;

So, Wyoming residency is required. Also note, it's not effective until July 1, 2011.

 

[NavyLCDR]

So, Wyoming residency is required.

Well, at least non Wyoming residents can still open carry!

 

[harrygunner]

NavyLT - Open carry and concealed carry with recognized permits (resident or otherwise) are not affected by this new legislation. As a non-resident, one can still legally carry concealed in Wyoming with a recognized permit.

I was answering 'Diamondback6's questions with links so he can confirm things for himself.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I understand that. But to answer Diamondback6's second question:

2. This good for nonresidents, too, so I can remove another one from the "CCW Reciprocity Chess BS" list?

Apparently, the answer would be no, he can't remove another one from the "CCW Reciprocity Chess BS" list.

 

[Diamondback6]

Well, it's a start... Thanks, guys.

 

[swinokur]

I think the important thing is it passed, regardless of restrictions. It can still be counted as a Constitutional carry state, which helps the cause, especially when it refutes the anti's claims of blood in the streets.

We are making progress. If we win just one of the SAF lawsuits, the wall starts to come down rapidly.

 

[nalioth]

Is a resident of the United States and has been a resident of Wyoming for not less than six (6) months prior to filing the application. The Wyoming residency requirements of this paragraph do not apply to any person who holds a valid permit authorizing him to carry a concealed firearm authorized and issued by a governmental agency or entity in another state that recognizes Wyoming permits and is a valid statewide permit;

Pardon me, but shouldn't "Constitutional Carry" do away with any permitting for anyone who happens to be in Wyoming?

I mean, I can go visit my family in Arizona and carry concealed all day long - even though I'm a Texan.

Did we not paste all of it, or am I reading it right (and it's not "Constitutional Carry")

 

[NavyLCDR]

I think the important thing is it passed, regardless of restrictions. It can still be counted as a Constitutional carry state

So the Constitution only applies to Wyoming residents in Wyoming? I thought the constitution applied to all Americans, regardless of which state they were standing in at the time.

I am glad the law passed too, and I do think it is another great step forward for all gun carriers in all states.... but it's not Constitutional Carry. If we call this Constitutional Carry then we are compromising. Compromising is what got us into this mess to begin with... you know, all those "reasonable regulation" compromises.

 

[swinokur]

I'll rephrase this. How about unlicensed conceal carry for residents.? That should work.

This is ripe for a court challenge using either P & I under the Fourteenth or Article I Section eight Full faith and credit.

Not sure which would be the strongest

IANAL

 

[NavyLCDR]

I'll rephrase this. How about unlicensed conceal carry for residents.? That should work.

Makes me happy.... not that that matters a pot of beans.

 

[swinokur]

LT, if you were in a discussion about how many states allow Constitutional carry how would you count Wyoming? 1/2? The fact that it's allowed at all should count for something, yes?

 

[NavyLCDR]

LT, if you were in a discussion about how many states allow Constitutional carry how would you count Wyoming? 1/2? The fact that it's allowed at all should count for something, yes?

As I stated earlier, I believe it counts as a great step forward for gun owner's in all states. However, to call it Constitutional Carry is compromising, because it's not - for non-Wyoming residents who wish to conceal a handgun in Wyoming.

Actually, if you want to get right down to it, because of the Federal Gun Free School Zone Act and the Federal Facilities Restriction, no state has pure Constitutional Carry. But those are regulated at the Federal level and states can't do anything about those.