X5 days of Christmas in August share

[bikemutt]

After what seemed like an eternity I got my Sig X5 back from Gray Guns today. These stock X5s may have extraction issues that are not easy to fix. Everything pointed to Gray Guns in Spray, OR as having the only true fix for this. In any event, this X5 had the extraction problem. The other problem is this is my favorite handgun to shoot, by a wide margin.

So, almost a year after deciding to fix it rather than sell it, I got the notice to send it in. Now it's back. I hope, hope, hope it shoots reliably like I want it to.

Worth a share with the good folks here at THR, wish me luck

 

[Walkalong]

Very nice, I hope it runs 100% for you.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

That's a beautiful gun. Wanted one for years. Sig wouldn't fix it under warranty?

Or they couldn't?

 

[bikemutt]

That's a beautiful gun. Wanted one for years. Sig wouldn't fix it under warranty?

Or they couldn't?

I heard their was no fix. Some have tried to retrofit with the redesigned extractors from the newer models but that didn't work. Candidly, I researched this so long ago I don't recall the details of why the extractor was a source of FTEs, nor why Sig offered no fix, nor why the Gray Guns extractor was the only solid solution. Spending $200 to make this one shoot reliably was worth it to me, especially considering what I paid for the gun.

The only real problem with the fix is Gray has to make the part which involves setting up tooling etc, they make a run when sufficient demand pools up. As these either get fixed or disappear into the back of gun safes somewhere, demand for the part will eventually dry up. Furthermore, the part is not a drop-in, it has to be fitted.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I heard their was no fix. Some have tried to retrofit with the redesigned extractors from the newer models but that didn't work.

There is no fix because the issue wasn't widespread enough to pursue one. It was a matter of less than optimal location of an existing extractor and stacking tolerances...that is why some worked and some didn't

...the part is not a drop-in, it has to be fitted.

It isn't a drop-in part because the part is only part of the "fix". The other part is machining the slide to optimally locate the new piece

 

[bannockburn]

bikemutt

A beautiful gun! Well worth the wait to get it fixed right. Here's hoping your first range session goes well!

 

[bikemutt]

There is no fix because the issue wasn't widespread enough to pursue one. It was a matter of less than optimal location of an existing extractor and stacking tolerances...that is why some worked and some didn't


It isn't a drop-in part because the part is only part of the "fix". The other part is machining the slide to optimally locate the new piece

Thanks for your illuminating comment 9mm, it's all starting to come back to me. I don't normally make friends with a gun but this one is special to me, even my wife agrees, it's special. You have to aim to miss, I'll leave it at that

 

[rskent]

Its hard to believe that Sig couldn't fit it up for you.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Its hard to believe that Sig couldn't fit it up for you.

Sig doesn't have the part. It is manufactured by GrayGuns Inc

 

[gotboostvr]

Sig doesn't have the part. It is manufactured by GrayGuns Inc

But you'd think they'd make their OWN part to fix the issue.

 

[9mmepiphany]

But you'd think they'd make their OWN part to fix the issue.

If you knew long long it took to designed to produce that part and determine the needed machining for installation...combined with the limited numbers of pistols needing the modification...as well as the testing involved, you would understand why they didn't/don't.

On the other hand, Bruce was the first smith to convert the P220 to handle the 10mm cartridge...before the factory introduced their own. I would guess there are less than a couple of hundred GGI 10mm 220s out there

 

[gotboostvr]

Just the fact they reengineered the slide/ extractor shows they knew it was an issue.

Why as a customer am I punished for being a early adopter?

I have no problem forgiving a company releasing a gun that has bugs as long as they make it right.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Just the fact they reengineered the slide/ extractor shows they knew it was an issue.

What makes you think they reengineered the slide/extractor?

 

[Jeb Stuart]

Congrats! Beautiful Pistol!

 

[gotboostvr]

What makes you think they reengineered the slide/extractor?

Because they did.

 

[RA40]

Beauty, enjoy that top tier Sig!