You can't hunt with an Assault Weapon huh?

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Here is a picture of my younger sister who killed this doe the last night of the season here in Oklahoma. The deer was shot at about 30-40yds and the bullet broke both front shoulders, it was a great shot and a good clean kill, the deer was DRT and Michele had a great time.

Edited to add- Rifle is a DPMS lower with a Armalite upper. Also I know .223 is marginal for deer but it was rifle I had that she felt the most comfortable shooting and I didn't see any reason to insist on making her use a rifle she was not comfortable with.

 
Less than .240 cal isn't legal in many states for big game. If it's legal in your state, the please keep in mind that there are maximum ranges in which to expect optimal performance any caliber. Assault rifle or not.

I have a friend that took a Cow Elk with a .762x39.. Not recommended. But it was at close range.


Remember, most military rounds are not designed to kill. They are designed to inflict wounds to disable a military's foe.

-Steve
 
Remember, most military rounds are not designed to kill. They are designed to inflict wounds to disable a military's foe.
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See one of the many threads on fireams myths :banghead: . Military rounds are designed to kill end of story. Military spec rounds are not the best choice for hunting however with better commercial loadings and hollow points available to us civies. I hunt rabbit, and coyote with my bushy M4gery all the time. I have also done some deer hunting with my SKS, the 7.62x39 ball is more than enough to drop a whitetail.
 
You can't hunt with an Assault Weapon huh?

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Says who?

Your sister looks quite content with her deer and her rifle choice!:)
 
Well if you're gonna kill one with a .223 that looks like a good one being that it's smallish. It's nice you can go hunting with your sis, mine is a vegan and gets upset with me for setting rat traps outside!!:rolleyes:
 
Jackofalltrades, the minimum in my state is a .22 caliber centerfire firing a 55gr expanding bullet. Which is what we were using, I even went to the trouble of getting a 5 round magazine to fulfill the .22 caliber automatics must have a magazine capacity of less than 7 rounds rule. Also on the military rounds not being suitable for hunting, I hunt with a military round as well...the .30-06.

That is an average size deer for here, we have goat deer not horse deer.
 
Lots of things may be legal, but not necessarily the best choice. Congratulations on the deer! Glad to hear you use another military caliber for your bambi hunting.

Theory on battle rifles is that if you wound a man, it disables at least one other opponent in taking care of the wounded person. You don't need to kill them to win.
 
I agree that .223 is not the best choice in general. I do however feel that at the ranges I knew we would be presented with a shot it would do the job and a good hit with a marginal caliber beats a marginal hit with a "good" caliber.
 
Will an AR drop a deer with proper placement at 40 yards? Sure. But, I'll keep my Remington M7 in .308, thanks. I got no use for goofy handling pistol gripped tacticool when I'm hunting. My little short action 6 lb Remington handles wonderfully, quick to the shoulder, deadly 1 MOA accuracy, and puts 'em down in one shot out to 350 yards. Plus, it'll do the job on really big hogs that roam down here. I doubt a .223 round would make it through the grissle plate on some of the big hogs I've seen shot with big caliber guns. Biggest hogs I shoot are 200 lbs because I don't care about mounting a feral hog and the big ones ain't as tasty, but if I wanna shoot a big hog, I know the .308 Winchester can handle the job. If I didn't think it could, I'd carry my 7mm Remington Magnum, but the little M7 is so much lighter, handier, and sweeter than that big Savage M110. I've got a 7.62x39 sporterized SKS, but I have much better hunting weapons. I've always been a bolt action guy, but also like levers for some applications. ARs and AKs are best used for fire suppression IMHO. I hunt with a hunting rifle. If I just had to be tacticool, I'd just call it a "sniper rifle".
 
One of my first prosecutions in misdemeanor court ('95ish) was a guy who took over 80 deer (his count) from the top of his tractor with a .22-250!:what: The judge yelled at him for wasting meat (he let them rot and then shot the coyotes too), fined him per deer and released him from probation when he paid everything off.

To restate the above Learned Elder, it is the rifleman, not the rifle that is the controlling factor.
 
I've shot coyotes with the 375 H&H and medium sized hogs (and whitetail does) with the evil black rifle because that is what I was carrying when the shot was presented. IMO shot placement trumps sheer power any day, within reason, of course (I wouldn't suggest the .223 is an elk caliber). A .223 bullet in the central nervous system will drop hogs & deer in their tracks. You just have to know your limitations and pass all but the cinch shots when using the mouse gun.

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hps
 
Lots of things may be legal, but not necessarily the best choice. Congratulations on the deer! Glad to hear you use another military caliber for your bambi hunting.

Theory on battle rifles is that if you wound a man, it disables at least one other opponent in taking care of the wounded person. You don't need to kill them to win.
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Why does this myth continue to get perpetuated?
 
Barnes X-Bullet

I have several friends who have used the .223 for whitetail deer. Specifically they say to use the Barnes X-Bullet. They assert that out to 200 yards, the X-Bullet hits like a brick. It sounds counter-intuitive to me, but then, I personally have used a .257 Wea. Mag. at 87 grains spire point, and that worked excellent. The sectional density is similar except that the X-Bullet can not fail. I had considered using my Bushmaster this year for deer, but the only magazine I could locate were 10-rounders. Perhaps next year.

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Remember, most military rounds are not designed to kill. They are designed to inflict wounds to disable a military's foe.
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Shame on you for spreading that. Shame shame shame:(
 
It may or may not be a McNamara-era Whiz Kids myth...

But I'd feel a lot better if sportsmen used soft-point or expanding ammo in their military-pattern autoloaders vs. the Hague-convention FMJ military stuff meant to minimize suffering while penetrating armor.

A buddy of mine used a Sierra MatchKing HPBTM bullet in his 6.5-06 to take a Texas deer several years ago. The bullet (essentially an FMJ - the hollow point is tiny and just a remnant of the bullet drawing process) whistled right on through the deer, small entrance hole, small exit hole, and damned poor blood trail. We tracked the deer for what seemed an eternity, with no luck. I was pissed, because in my book nobody leaves a deer to die in the woods without finding it and taking it home to complete the cycle.

I took the bolt from his rifle for a year as a lesson in using the right ammo for the job.
 
Who told you something like that? BTW here is a pic of me hunting varmints. Oh also I would suggest for future that you black out your license plate. Not everyone on the web is a nice person. And you dont need a login here to view this forum.

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