You guys were right. More $ = better glass.

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About 18 months ago I started a couple threads looking for advice on rifle scopes which led into a discussion about spotting scopes as well. I was just getting started on some longer range shots with my AR and had never shot with a scope before. A recurring theme in the advice I got was that you definitely get what you pay for in scopes. The more you spend the better you'll see.

I have a rather limited budget so I do a lot of research before I spend my money in hopes of getting the most value in the price range I can afford.

The longest range at the club I shoot at is 300 yds, and the $100 scope I originally had was useless at that distance. I then bought a Bushnell Nitro 6-24x50 riflescope for $400 and that allowed me to set the crosshairs on the bull at 300 yds but I couldn't see the hits even using a glow spot target. I figure the scope is adequate for what I want to do if I could just see the hits so I know what adjustments to make. Which led me to research spotting scopes.

So I bought a Huicocy 20-60x60 spotting scope for $60, but I still couldn't see the hits at 300 yds. Some of the guys on here said that good glass starts at 4 figures and that isn't happening for me so I decided that I'd have to be happy shooting the 200 yd range which I can see well with my riflescope.

Last week my son gave me an early birthday/fathers day present. It was a Gosky EagleView 20-60x85 spotting scope, which I know was around $700. I now see what is meant by getting what you pay for as I can see the hits at 300 yds. The clarity is amazing. Here's a picture I took looking through it at 300 yds. Don't make fun of my lack of accuracy please. I sat down with no idea where I was and adjusted after every 3 shots. I started off way low and right. By the end the groups were getting much closer to the center. I figure next trip I'll have a better starting point and should have better groups.


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Pretty easy to see the hits now. Notice how that tree is partially obscuring the target? It's way downrange only a few feet in front of the target. Standing beside the bench and looking downrange to see where I wanted to place my target it wasn't in the way. It was only after I hung the target and sat at the bench that I saw it was in the line of sight from that angle. I wasn't walking all the way to rehang the target so I just tried to ignore it. I'll be going to the range today and I'll take my loppers and trim that branch back.
 
. I sat down with no idea where I was and adjusted after every 3 shots. I started off way low and right. By the end the groups were getting much closer to the center. I figure next trip I'll have a better starting point and should have better groups.
You can sight in very closely with one shot if you are careful

Set a large target at 25 yards, take the caps off the scope. The target dot should be about the size of a bullet hole on a blank sheet of paper. Off a VERY solid rest, take one shot. Now, put the crosshairs on the dot, and being very careful to not move the rifle, adjust the crosshairs to the bullet hole. Typically will put you on at about 125-150 yards depending on the height of the scope above the bore
 
Good glass over magnification any day of the week. The scope on the AR I use the most is a 4X with good glass. It's all about the resolution. The highest power scope I have on an AR is a 6X and that's my "long range" rifle.
 
I have a number of Nikon Black scopes, and I really miss their stuff since they chose to ditch anything related to shooting. Their Black scopes were frequently on sale, not too highly priced to start with, and the glass was comparable to glass 2X or 3X their price. The didn't have the best reticles, but the glass made up for it. The first time I hit 1000 yards with an AR (5 for 5) was with one of their 1-6 LPVOs. My Dad said, let me have a go, and he hit 4 for 4.
Since then the best value for price scopes I'm buying are Primary Arms GLX scopes.
 
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