On last night's 60 Minutes they did a segment on Constitutional Concealed Carry. It was pretty much slanted as you would expect from them but that's not why I'm posting. At the conclusion of the segment they did a shot up a long row of tables at a gun show with people inspecting firearms while the announcer did the closing voice-over. Pay attention to the little boy in front PLAYING with some type of snubbie. You can see the cylinder turning and hear the click of the hammer falling as he repeatedly pulls the trigger. Where the heck are his parents? The whole idea of it just leaves me speechless.
Young boy @ gun show during last nights 60 Minutes segment
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Hokie_PhD
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So true
It wouldn’t surprise me
That said, why did the vendor let him get hold of it? It seems to me, no one should be playing with a gun unsupervised. A quick distraction, and the kid (or an adult) walks off with the gun (provided it’s not secured down)
Good question.
But then, conspiracy theories aside, I think if we're honest with ourselves we all know at least one person whose behavior around guns is, shall we say, less than exemplary. And while it is particularly annoying when our adversaries point these people out, its not their fault they exist.
larryh1108
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Aren't actions secured with zip ties at gun shows?
I agree that he was a plant put there to enrage viewers.
I agree that he was a plant put there to enrage viewers.
When I first posted the video I hadn't considered that as a possibility. As a counter argument though I would point out that I doubt that most non-gun enthusiasts would ever have noticed and probably few people who frequent this forum or others like it would have sat through the whole thing until the end. I did because my wife watches 60 Minutes. And out of the entire 13 minute segment that little clip occupied 4 seconds of it. If it's a plant, it's really subtle.
dogtown tom
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I doubt he was a plant.
Not having a gun ziptied is stupid.
Not having a gun ziptied is stupid.
I agree. My great fear is that 100 years from now if the RKBA is fully eroded, it will not be because it was taken from us, but rather because we gave it away through poor stewardship.
Stubert
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I have NEVER been to a gun show where the firearms were not zip tied.
I live in a small community outside of Charlotte, NC and one of my neighbors has set up a casual Facebook page for people who live here to keep in touch and let each other know what's going on. For a couple of days around the holidays this year there were some kids going around at night ringing doorbells and running off. There was some agitation on the community Facebook page about it that had pretty much run it's course when one of the guys that lives in our community chimed in and said that if the kids came to his house they would get a much different reaction than they expected as he had his ".40" on his hip. I'm a long time gun guy and that even turned me off. The reactions he got to his post from my neighbors was immediate and 110% negative. Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
Which doesn't mean that there's never been a seller at a gun show who was lackadaisical about keeping all the guns on his table zip-tied. Indeed I've been to gun shows where that was the case. I've also been at a gun show at which someone managed to load and fire a gun on display.
Why would you believe that your limited experience is relevant and might be indicative of what has gone on at the gun shows you haven't attended?
.308 Norma
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Come on out to Idaho next month. I'll take you to a gun show in Pocatello on the 3rd, and another in Burley on the 17th where you'll see plenty of firearms that are not zip tied.
stonecutter2
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Here locally in IL I went to many gun shows without anything zip tied. That all ended when I walked in to a show about 10 minutes after an accidental shooting where some clown put a live round in a Mini 14 to see if the action worked correctly, then left it loaded. Then someone else came along and "dry fired" it, and boom - straight through a huge log used a support beam and into a guy, and showered people with wood splinters.
The next day every single gun got a zip tie, both on display and walk-ins.
stonecutter2
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I doubt the kid's planted there. Just some camera they set down and amidst who knows how many people they got this shot, and it made them very pleased i'm sure. Only lasted a few seconds, for all we know the dealer came by immediately after and told the kid to buzz off.
A lot of busy shows feature people doing dumb things until the dealers step in.
A lot of busy shows feature people doing dumb things until the dealers step in.
Stubert
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I have been going to shows for over 40 yrs. Here in New York, they ziptie everything at the door. We must be really paranoid, I brought a .177 cal pellet pistol in to a show last year to sell and they ziptied it. Sorry, didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.
primalmu
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Does it to anyone else like that display is specifically meant for dry firing? The other guys look like they are dry firing, too (the guy closest goes to rack the slide possibly after dry firing or attempting to dry fire).
.308 Norma
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No feathers ruffled, at least not any of mine.
And I personally wouldn't mind if all of the firearms at gun shows out here in Idaho were zip tied - as long as the dealer would remove the zip tie if I requested to dry fire one of them. I always ask permission before I dry fire a gun I'm looking at anyway. Then I check once again to make sure it's not loaded.
But getting back to that kid playing with the snubby in that 60 minutes segment last night - there would have been h*!! to pay if either my dad or my mom saw me doing that when I was a kid. And it would have been the same if either my wife or I saw one of our kids playing with a gun. All of our grandkids (all grown now) were taught early-on how to handle firearms safely too.
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JWF III
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I saw this last night. My first thought is that doesn’t look like the gun shows do around Atlanta. That looks more like Shot Show or the NRA yearly convention. It may just be some footage that they were able to get double use out of.
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cjwils
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Stubert said, "I have NEVER been to a gun show where the firearms were not zip tied."
I have never been to a gun show where they were zip tied. I am in the pacific northwest.
I have never been to a gun show where they were zip tied. I am in the pacific northwest.
1976B.L.Johns.
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Been to both, shows with zip-tied and those with not. Speculation,............WELL? You decide! ( Do not want to get into politics!)
This sounds like the most reasonable explanation, it is definately a display set up for dry fire. I suspect the kids parent/s are just out of frame. When I see a camera in a situation where "news" is being gathered I avoid the camera, every chance I get.
Indeed. “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
scaatylobo
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Watched 60 Minutes and hoped beyond hope that they would not do the smug grin that was on the face of the host EVERY TIME he spoke to a pro gun person.
Sadly their agenda was all over that show = and SO F'ING OBVIOUS that it irked me enough to send them a nasty gram on FB [ as did MANY others ].
I live in Western NY and go to many gun shows,the guns are sometimes zip tied,sometimes not --- but they are locked to the table often if not under glass.
And after all,the boy just might be a real shooter and was testing the DA on that snubby --- possible as not all children are raised to hate guns.
The kid might even be a SASS or combat shooter for all we know.
Judge not,lest ye be judged.
He was NOT aiming it at a person,near as I could see.
That speaks volumes to me.
Sadly their agenda was all over that show = and SO F'ING OBVIOUS that it irked me enough to send them a nasty gram on FB [ as did MANY others ].
I live in Western NY and go to many gun shows,the guns are sometimes zip tied,sometimes not --- but they are locked to the table often if not under glass.
And after all,the boy just might be a real shooter and was testing the DA on that snubby --- possible as not all children are raised to hate guns.
The kid might even be a SASS or combat shooter for all we know.
Judge not,lest ye be judged.
He was NOT aiming it at a person,near as I could see.
That speaks volumes to me.
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