Your most accurate 9mm load

[jmorris]

Played with one of my 9mm carbines today and found a noticeable difference in the accuracy @ 100 yards of the various loads I had on hand.

What have you found to be your most accurate load?

 

[Dudedog]

I like 4.3gr of WSF with a RMR 124gr FN, mild load about 1030fps, 4.6gr WSF also shoots well. (these bullets also worked well for me with HP38, Universal and CFE-Pistol)

 

[egd]

As bad as I shoot it's hard to tell what's accurate. But I think 4.2 gr of W231/hp38 with the RMR 124 RN at 1.135 oal works best for me.

 

[LiveLife]

Disclaimer: Following post contains loads not currently published by powder manufacturers. Use them at your own risk!

most accurate 9mm load ... carbines ... @ 100 yards

I may finally get a weekend without rain for a change to go shooting.

Have several loads ready for 9mm/45ACP carbine testing (17" Just Right carbine and 16" PSA AR carbines). But 100 yards? I was planning to do accuracy/chrono testing at 25/50 yards but can do some testing at 100 yards too.


Planned 9mm loads for carbine testing are listed below and may add other powders (Universal/WSF/CFE Pistol/AutoComp) and bullets (RMR HM 115 gr RN). The groups were shot from Glock 22 with KKM/Lone Wolf 40-9 conversion barrels:

115 gr Winchester FMJ 4.8 gr W231/HP-38 at 1.135" - This is my reference 9mm load. Accuracy about 3" @ 25 yards.

124 gr Coated lead/RMR HM RN 4.0 gr Red Dot/Promo at 1.160" - General purpose range practice/plinking load with accuracy on par with reference load. Will test Red Dot and Promo powders separately. This will likely be my designated carbine load and may even test 115 gr bullet for accuracy comparison.

124 gr RMR HM RN 4.0 gr WST at 1.160" (4.0 gr max case fill at 1.160" to prevent powder compression) - Produced smallest shot group of 1.5" @ 25 yards - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9924922#post9924922

124 gr RMR HM RN 5.2 gr BE-86 at 1.160" (5.2 gr max case fill at 1.160" to prevent powder compression) - Produced sub 2" shot group @ 25 yards - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9924922#post9924922

124 gr Berry's RN (regular plating/solid base) 4.0 gr Titegroup at 1.160" - Produced 2" shot group @ 25 yards and will test with HBRN-TP/RMR HM RN bullets - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9924922#post9924922

124 gr Berry's HBRN-TP/RMR HM RN 3.8 gr Bullseye at 1.135" - 1" @ 15 yards and will test at 1.160" with 4.0 gr.

115 gr Berry's HBRN-TP 6.1 gr Herco at 1.160" (6.1 gr max case fill at 1.160" to prevent powder compression) - 1" @ 10 yards and want to do more accuracy testing with 115 gr RMR HM bullets - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=745656

124 gr Coated lead RN 5.2 gr Herco at 1.160" - 1" @ 10 yards. Since Herco produced very accurate plated/lead loads for 40S&W, I want to test Herco for plated/coated lead bullets.

 

[sniper58]

I'm using Campro 124 grain plated hollow points over 5.3 grains of WSF in my Aero Survival rifle (with Vortex Strikefire sight).
Seated to 1.110" I get 8 of 10 shots in 1.75" at 50 meters. There are always a couple of flyers.

Chronographs at 1380 fps

 

[PapaG]

Only worked in my P85, but the RCBS 150KT with a sane load of Unique was the only "tack driving" load I have found in a series of about a dozen 9mm handguns over the years.
92 Beretta likes the 124 grain TC, Smith 39 likes the 147 TC, and my Kahr, LC9 and M&P Shield all like the Berry's 125 (I think) grain plated hp. None have I ever loaded "hot". Hottest I ever seem to get is about halfway between starting and max.

 

[vaalpens]

Played with one of my 9mm carbines today and found a noticeable difference in the accuracy @ 100 yards of the various loads I had on hand.

What have you found to be your most accurate load?

Based on your OP it seems that you had some accurate 9mm loads for your handguns, but when you played with the carbine, some of those loads did not perform that well.

I just have handgun loads, so an accurate load will probably not help for the carbine.

Can you maybe share some loads that performed well in both handgun and carbine, and maybe some of them that did not. It will be interesting to see.

 

[LiveLife]

Walkalong and other members posted in the past that loads that were accurate in pistols were also accurate loads for carbines.

Weather forecast finally looks good enough for me to do some accuracy and chrono testing this weekend so hopefully I will post some carbine data tomorrow.

jmorris, I will do some 100 yard testing too.

 

[jmorris]

To be honest I really never played with 9mm a lot further than 35 yards or so. Always seemed to use something else, further out.

Plated 147's are the worst I have tried so far Winchester 115g JHP's are the best so far. Just seeing what others have came up with.

Let us know how they turn out BDS.

 

[Hondo 60]

jmorris as you said "found a noticeable difference in the accuracy"

What works beautifully in one gun, can be the worst load ever in another.
I have four 38 Specials - I'd be much better off with just one. :banghead:
A load that works great in one, doesn't do so well in another.

You'll find the same with 9mm.

You also didn't say what bullet?
115gr? 147gr?? in between??
Jacketed?? plated?? lead??

To many variables to get a straight answer.
I'm honestly not trying to be difficult, but you gotta give us a start.

Personally, I like 124 gr Hi-Tek coated bullets from ACME

http://www.acmebullet.com/bullets-reloading-brass/HiTek-Coated-bullets?product_id=424


They're RN-NLG (round nose - no lube groove)
Being coated they don't need bullet grease.
4.0 gr of Titegroup - A MAX LOAD.
My gun is very tight, so it needs that max to reliably cycle.

 

[J_McLeod]

Disclaimer:

115 gr Winchester FMJ 4.8 gr W231/HP-38 at 1.135" - This is my reference 9mm load. Accuracy about 3" @ 25 yards.

Same for me. This is my go to 9mm load, along with 4.8gr of HS-6 over a 147gr MBC lead bulet. Don't really shoot 124's.

 

[tightgroup tiger]

for me it's
4.1 gr of Titegroup with 124gr Berry's roundnose and RMR-RN HC Match grade.
5.5 gr of BE-86 with same bullets,
5.5 gr of Longshot with same bullets. OAL 1.125-1.135" for all of them.

 

[DudeRick]

for me it's

4.1 gr of Titegroup with 124gr Berry's roundnose and RMR-RN HC Match grade.
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This except with 124gr precision delta FMJ. Experiment with different OAL's in your gun.

 

[jmorris]

You also didn't say what bullet?
115gr? 147gr?? in between??
Jacketed?? plated?? lead??

To many variables to get a straight answer.
I'm honestly not trying to be difficult, but you gotta give us a start.

Personally, I like 124 gr Hi-Tek coated bullets from ACME

I have lots of stuff just not a lot of different stuff loaded. I tried plated 147's, 147 FMJ's, coated 124's, 124 fmj's, 115g FMJ and JHP. Didn't try any of my lead bullets because the rifle I am using is integrally suppressed. I do have lots of potential combinations many different brands and types of bullets and powders suitable for 9mm ranging from as fast as N310 to as slow as HS-7.

Figured it might be easier to assemble others "best" vs everything under the sun.

 

[Walkalong]

Walkalong and other members posted in the past that loads that were accurate in pistols were also accurate loads for carbines.

In general that seems to be true, but not always, and up close with a carbine they all tend to look good. I double check pistol loads at 25 yards or so to see if they are acceptable.

I shoot steel a lot at 100 yards with my 9MM AR, and only a smaller plate is challenging.

I have never fine tuned the loads I am using now at 100 yards, but both shoot well. Popping clay pigeons on the 100 yard berm or 8" steel plates is easy.

3.9/4.0 Grs N320 and an X-Treme 124 Gr HP or Powerbond 124 Gr HP. I can't remember the OAL offhand and am out of town, but I think it is 1.060. Nice and clean, drops the brass close to me, nice recoil impulse, runs around 1050/1075, and is accurate for my purposes. I have no idea what the pressure is, but it is max IMHO. Start lower. Use at your own risk.

 

[LiveLife]

I like 124 gr Hi-Tek coated bullets from ACME

I am gearing up to cast bullets for powder coating and have several hundred pounds of lead alloy. I have samples of coated bullets casted/coated by blarby to add to the range test.

Didn't try any of my lead bullets because the rifle I am using is integrally suppressed

I could test MBC 124 gr non-step RN (SmallBall) and Dardas 124 gr stepped RN. I am thinking of using W231/HP-38 and/or Red Dot/Promo. I have other 124/125 gr CN/SWC bullets along with 147 gr FN I can add to the test.

I have lots of stuff just not a lot of different stuff loaded. I tried plated 147's, 147 FMJ's, coated 124's, 124 fmj's, 115g FMJ and JHP

I checked my inventory of 9mm bullets yesterday and have:

- 115 gr Winchester FMJ
- 115 gr Berry's HBRN-TP
- 115 gr RMR HC RN
- 124 gr Berry's RN (regular/solid base)
- 124 gr Berry's HBRN-TP
- 124 gr RMR HC RN
- 124 gr Speer Gold Dot HP
- And assortment of 9mm bullet samples

I will start with 115 gr bullets and progress on towards 124/147 gr bullets.

 

[kerreckt]

4.2gr. Titegroup w/124gr. Berry's plated. The shape made no difference. This shoots great in all our 9mm. pistols.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

I'm having good luck with 5.2 grains CFE-P, 124 gr Berry's RN, seated at 1.150".

 

[jmorris]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmorris
I like 124 gr Hi-Tek coated bullets from ACME

If I posted that, I messed up. The only hi-tek coated bullets are my own cast and coated.

 

[rg1]

My 9MM pistols and carbine rifle likes Remington 124 Golden Sabers. They just have better accuracy than my other loads. Work up to this but I like Unique powder at 5.2 grains with the 124 GS at 1.125" oal, CCI 500 primers, and Win cases.

 

[Shoot66]

I use coated bullets and Vihtavouri powders. My shooting´s at 50 and 100 meters.
My most accurate combo is as follows:
145 gr RN .357´´ over 4.3-4.4 gr Vihta 3N37, COL 1.100´´- at 100 m it will stay below 6´´ disp. for 5
For the 125 gr bullet I use 4.0 gr of Vihta VN 320. Not bad but not as good as the former one.

Edited: Pistol, 4.72´´ barrel.

 

[sammy]

147 grain SNS Casting flat nose over 4.3 grains of Power Pistol, 1.1 OAL. You can thank me later.

 

[Hangingrock]

From my perspective accuracy @ 25 - 50 - 100 -Yds, is almost becoming a mute point as most individual's I've observed as an example shoot at 10Yds or less. That's from observing individuals at a shooting facility that has a membership of 800 plus individuals.

 

[LiveLife]

From my perspective accuracy @ 25 - 50 - 100 -Yds, is almost becoming a mute point as most individual's I've observed as an example shoot at 10Yds or less. That's from observing individuals at a shooting facility that has a membership of 800 plus individuals.

I would agree more with your post if it was made in the "Handguns: Autoloaders" category where more average/typical shooters are focused on close range defensive shooting where accuracy (or lack there of) at 10 yards or less may be pertinent.

But if your comment was posted in the "Competition Shooting" category, your post would have been met with varying degrees of counter points by action pistol match shooters on the virtues of fast double tap accuracy to 25 yards and virtues of slow fire accuracy to 25-50 yards by bullseye match shooters.

And if it was posted in the "Rifle Country" category, many 9mm carbine shooters would beg to differ on the virtues of 50-100 yard accuracy.

This being "Handloading and Reloading" category, I believe there are many here, like jmorris and myself, who are interested in developing accurate 9mm loads and what components/dimensions would produce smaller shot groups at 100 yards out of 9mm carbines.

Your most accurate 9mm load

Played with one of my 9mm carbines today and found a noticeable difference in the accuracy @ 100 yards of the various loads I had on hand.

What have you found to be your most accurate load?

 

[Hangingrock]

Originally by BDS

This being "Handloading and Reloading" category, I believe there are many here, like jmorris and myself, who are interested in developing accurate 9mm loads and what components/dimensions would produce smaller shot groups at 100 yards out of 9mm carbines

If by chance you do not like what I wrote then simply ignore it. The observation I made pertains to those individuals whom are also Reloader's but do so for a different purpose. Let us simply agree to disagree and maintain a semblance of civility. For your information I do shoot handguns in different disciplines out to 50yds and rifles across the course and on occasion out to 1000Yds.