Z-Cast Bulletz Returns !
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I don't load for the .41 but if we were talking about a .44 I would prefer a SWC because the sharp shoulder cuts well while a round nose pushes through. I would buy a SWC before a RN bullet.
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Looks like the new ZCast website is showing limited products in stock with 4-6 weeks for delivery - http://www.jacobeagle.com/bullets
My plinking loads are lighter target loads and softer 14-16 BHN bullets worked well in my pistols without leading (new owner of ZCast said alloy mix will remain the same).
Hard to beat 45ACP 200 gr SWC/RNFP for $70/1000 - http://www.jacobeagle.com/product-page/e59f1a97-a669-9200-bdfc-7b1bf1dddd84
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I wonder if you have unsized unlubed bullets in 45c 250gr bullets and if so what size are they?
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I can arrange unlubed and unsized if you wish. Not sure the drop diameter since I've never sold them that way, but I'll check tomorrow in the shop and find out for you.
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Midland Man, I REALLY want to apologize for not getting back here sooner. I'd like to have a great excuse like the roof blew off my barn (It DID) or something else, but the truth is I haven't been on THR for some time and I simply FORGOT ! You can call me names or something if you want to. I'll be in the shop tomorrow and I'll try to get you a measurement then. Really sorry I spaced this. Talk to ya soon.
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sorry for the long delay I totally forgot this thread but yeah I was looking for more like .457 thanks!
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and thank you bds sure appreciate reminding me!
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BDS IS TURNING OUT TO BE A REAL SERVICE ! .457 is closer to a 45-70 than a 45 Colt. Would 458 be too large ? If not I could work that out I think. Might have to get creative. But now you got my curiosity WAY up. What are you shooting a .457 in ? That's a REALLY large Colt 45 ?
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Purchased some 45 ACP 200gr SWC from Robbie a couple of days ago ,his web site was giving him a bad time he is trying to get it fixed , so if you can;t get the site to work Please call him direct the phone number on the first page here works..He seems like a great guy and is willing to help any one with questions about bullets. His prices are the best I have found for cast bullets..Phone him at 928-707-1354...
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I am shooting these in two heritage big bore revolvers with 4 3/4in barrels plus two rossi 92's with 16in barrels I tried .452 but had leading then went to .454 and the leading went down but still present then I went to .457 and with using lee alox on all three sizes the leading totally stopped with the .457 and accuracy was amazingly great groups tightened up. I am casting with an old lyman mold single cavity they don't make anymore part# 454 190 in which they make a double cavity now but I don't own yet! but this is a great shooting load that works extremely well in my guns! I load 6.8grs greendot with these bullets and I was very impressed!
p.s. I am using wheelweight lead and I think these are around 10-12bhn.
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Thank you Mr. Ramos for the kind words. Your order shipped today at Noon. Let me know what you think. I'll send a tracking number in just a few minutes via E-Mail.
Midland Man, WOW that's a wide 45. I'll check to see what I can do about a 457 sizer. But I am thinking I may have to get a light 45-70 bullet mold to drop a bullet wide enough for the sizer. How soon do you need these ?
Midland Man, WOW that's a wide 45. I'll check to see what I can do about a 457 sizer. But I am thinking I may have to get a light 45-70 bullet mold to drop a bullet wide enough for the sizer. How soon do you need these ?
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ahh its no biggie I don't mind making some but there's times when I would like to order some so I don't have to make them. but its no hurry.
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Well my curiosity remains. What kind of a mold are you using when you pour your own ? This is something that may be of help to me in the future. Till now I wasn't aware that anyone was shooting a 457 in a 45 Colt gun accept for old first generation original Colts.
I've tried a few oversize rounds but never 5/1000 over. Are you using a small 45-70 mold ? Who makes it ?
I've tried a few oversize rounds but never 5/1000 over. Are you using a small 45-70 mold ? Who makes it ?
Started buying from Robbie early last summer. My first order was .45 ACP 230G RN. .357 158g SWC. 124G RN 9mm and 45Colt 250G FPRN
Glad to be able to report that all of the order arrived in the time promised, (4 weeks) and the quality is excellent!
The quality and the price cant be beat, didn't find one bullet out of spec and they are holding some very accurate groups.
Z cast is now my supplier of choice.
Glad to be able to report that all of the order arrived in the time promised, (4 weeks) and the quality is excellent!
The quality and the price cant be beat, didn't find one bullet out of spec and they are holding some very accurate groups.
Z cast is now my supplier of choice.
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I am using a old lyman single cavity mold part# 454 190 they don't make this mold anymore but they do make it with that same part number in double cavity in which I do not own yet! but mine drops a bullet at .460 and I use a lee sizer in .457 and that works very well in my heritage big bore revolvers and both my rossi 92's with 16in barrels. I get zero leading using wheelweight lead! so I was wondering on maybe instead of buyin bullets but rather buyin some lead from you at around the hardness of wheel weight lead, I believe its around 10-12bhn so do you have some at that hardness?
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Thats about a 190-200 grain bullet if I'm correct yes ??? I was thinking you wanted 250gr. Thats an OLD Lyman mold, possibly made with the intent of making bullets for the first gen. Colt revolvers. They needed wider bullets. As far as wheel weight ingots, they are EASY to find. There are PAGES of wheel weights for sale on E-Bay. Look for clean ones, or better yet sometimes you can find some already melted into ingots for you. Look for the clip on weights. The stick on weights are almost pure lead and too soft for anything accept muzzle loader balls. If you shop em hard you can get em for around $1 per pound. That comes to about 6 cents a round at 200 grains I think. I'll look through some old archive molds I have and see what I can do as well. In the future I'd like to offer bullets made just for the old Colt revolvers. This might get me on the way sooner than expected. I hope this helps !
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midland man
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sorry I didn't mention it but yes these are coming out to be 250gr bullets and also my heritage big bore revolvers must be made on the old colt design as I tried .452 and .454 but the leading was still there, but the .457 works out very well!!
p.s. so do you have some lead you would sell around this hardness level? fyi, if you do go to making these bullets I wouldn't mind once in a while buying some from you as well as some ignots of lead providing you would sell me some lead when I need it! thanks!
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Thanx Midland Man. I have a great deal of trouble keeping enough lead to keep up with orders already. I could sell a small amount of 11 bhn for around $2 per pound as long as you didn't need too much. If I run into an extra truck load I will make sure to give you a shout. I am guessing that you need several pounds but not several tons ? If you use wheel weights as you mentioned, they should drop on average about 12 bhn. If you drop them straight from the mold into water to cool, they will harden up a bit more. I still recommend wheel weights for $1 a pound from E-bay. Saves you some money for not too much extra labor. How much do you think you would need for starters ?
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its basically some I would need it when the local iron yard dosent have any sometimes and so it would be once in a while thing and sometimes up to 50lbs or less as I'm on small fixed income so I can only do so much shooting and reloading at a time! but no I wouldn't want to run you out of lead either just a backup plan if needed? but if you ever get to makin the bullets for the old colts with wide bullets I would love to learn more about it? infact did you ever dig into the old archives and see what you come up with??
but if you ever get to makin the bullets for the old colts with wide bullets I would love to learn more about it? infact did you ever dig into the old archives and see what you come up with??
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Well someone else today asked me about 250 grain bullets sized to .458 Looks like there may be a budding interest. I didn't find anything in the archives that would work. In fact I didn't find much of anything worth much of anything in the archives. I guess that's why they're in the archives huh. But when the time comes to start dropping bullets for the old Colts I will announce it on the website and here too. If yer limiting shooting because of the fixed income, then you really should check out E-bay. However, I think I have a load coming in a few days that I could spare 50 lbs from if you like. It is an undetermined hardness but will probably work fine for low pressure rounds like 45 Colt. It would be around $1.80 per pound. Plus shipping. But I can get the whole 50 lbs in one USPS box for 13.45 I'll know if the load is coming in a few days.
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