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A Girl's Gun?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nachosgrande, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. nachosgrande

    nachosgrande Member

    Oct 14, 2008
    I was watching "In Bruges" the other day and during one scene between two hitmen where they are showing what guns they have been able to acquire while in the city of Bruges, the one shows his full size semi auto pistol, and the other shows his snub nose revolver and is upset because he only has what he calls a "girl's gun". Is a snub nose revolver a girl's gun?
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  2. Duke of Doubt

    Duke of Doubt member

    Dec 29, 2008
    Kojak didn't think so.

    "Who loves ya, Baby?"
  3. Prince Yamato

    Prince Yamato Senior Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Unless it's marked, "Lady Smith," then no, it's not a girl's gun.
  4. chriske

    chriske Member

    May 15, 2008
    I don't really think so : the girls I meet at the range seem to prefer various 9mm's or 1911- type handguns.
  5. KC0QGL

    KC0QGL Member

    Jul 27, 2008
    A snub is not a girls gun, just ask my wife.
  6. Zoogster

    Zoogster Senior Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    Guns are one thing that does not fit the assumptions of size.

    Clearly women are fully capable of using most firearms. There is some exceptions of really high recoil or heavy items that would benefit from additional strength and be too much for many men and most women.

    That said we know what is meant by the "girls gun" comment. It is to imply the firearm is smaller, and by conclusion weaker and more suitable for a girl.
    Unfortunately this is even a mistake some women make picking out a firearm for themselves the first time. One you have to politely point out to a new shooter so they won't be intimidated when they touch off thier first shots in some tiny little cannon and dislike shooting from then on or develop a flinch.

    Smaller guns weigh less, have shorter barrels, and as a result both kick more and have more muzzle climb in a given caliber than a larger firearm in the same caliber.

    So a "girls gun" or a lower recoil more manageable gun as implied by the term would actualy be a larger gun.
    A small airweight snubnose would be less appropriate for someone more recoil sensitive than a full size revolver in the same caliber.
    It takes more strength to accurately shoot a lightweight snubnose rapidly than a larger full size gun.
    Society and Hollywood will continue to think bigger is more powerful and harder to tame however. So a big heavy gun with little recoil is macho and masculine, while the hard kicking little snubby is weak and feminine.

    The truth is a 9x19 full size semi-autopistol firing a more powerful cartridge kicks less than many lightweight .38 Special snubnose revolvers.
    Or comparing revolvers to revolvers a .357 Ruger Redhawk considerably overbuilt in that cartridge looks like a big "manly" gun, but would be far easier to shoot than your average small CCW .357 Magnum, or "girl gun".
    Both men and women will find larger heavier pistols easier to manage.

    In fact heavier pistols are so much easier to manage some states even have laws that classify pistols weighing more than X number of ounces "assault weapons". Thier extremely easy to manage recoil and hence faster accurate follow-up shots making them a greater percieved danger, and a greater target of gun grabbers.
    For example in the Federal "Assault Weapon" Ban pistols weighing more than 50 ounces, or about 3 pounds unloaded were "assault weapons".
    Some states continue to have arbitrary maximum weights for handguns before they become "assault weapons".

    Some restrictions are really extreme. Take this one once proposed in Iowa
    http://www.legis.state.ia.us/GA/76GA/Legislation/HF/00200/HF00234/ :
    20 ounces are more would have become an assault weapon, or 1 pound 4 ounces.

    So in conclusion a lighter smaller gun is most certainly not an easier gun to control in a given caliber. Or a "girl gun" by those using the term to imply that. A massive heavy chunk of metal would be the easiest to tame. Only someone ignorant to firearms and the laws of physics would think otherwise, which seems to be most of Hollywood. Hollywood after all only fires blanks with almost no recoil, or uses special effects in most movies. Nobody is actualy firing a payload generating recoil, so it is easy to remain ignorant even working with thousands of firearms.
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  7. Bubba613

    Bubba613 member

    Aug 2, 2007
    I carry a snub 19. So did the Secret Service. So no.
    A 1911 otoh is definitely a girls' gun. Almost every women who puts one in her hands wants it.
  8. Deer Hunter

    Deer Hunter Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    On a completely unrelated note,

    That was a damned good movie....
  9. moi_self26

    moi_self26 New Member

    Nov 16, 2008
    New Hampshire
    I don't get it, does it let out a high pitched scream when you pull the trigger? Does it talk trash about all of the other guns behind their back?
  10. jklinstein

    jklinstein New Member

    Mar 28, 2006
    When my wife saw my S&W Model 36 she called it a "Charlie's Angels gun". Taking her to the range with it changed her mind.
  11. expvideo

    expvideo Participating Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    Everett, WA
    My girlfriend liked the snub .44 special that she shot. She liked it quite a bit.

    I don't think that, in general, there is a particular "girl's gun". Of course there are the pink guns and so on that are marketted toward girls, but for the most part, I think that girls tend to have as broad of tastes as guys do. I think that psychologically there may be some differences in why they like one over another from why a guy would like one over the other, but I think there would still be the same diversity of opinion.

    I don't know if this bothers girls as much as it bothers me, but I would think that it might bug them a little that we insist on offering them the same handful of guns (.380s, compact glocks, taurus compacts, pink guns, etc), as if they were incapable of making their own decisions. I know I would be a little turned off if someone were insisting that I wanted a Glock 26, and wouldn't let me just go into the gun shop and make my own choices.

    I can tell you with the utmost certainty that if I took my girlfriend in to a gun shop and offered to buy her a carry gun (let's suspend disbelief for a moment and pretend that she doesn't have a problem with me spending the money...) she would end up choosing a gun that I wouldn't have thought to suggest. I might have suggested a compact or mid size glock, a Taurus compact, a Sig P232, a KelTec, or some other stereotypical gun, and she might choose the Kimber Elite, the Springfield XD .45 or the IMI Baby Eagle or some other thing that I didn't even think to offer. Much in the same way that I would probably pick the gun I like the most, rather than have someone give me a handful of options and tell me that those are the best choices for me. When we went to the range and rented some guns, she liked the full size Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm the most. That isn't something that most people would suggest for a girl. Neither is the snub .44 special that she enjoyed shooting quite a bit.

    BTW, here's a quick tip if your girl is anything like mine... She likes accurate guns more than small and cute guns. She doesn't like shooting at the range when she has trouble placing rounds where she wants them, so she gets tired of shooting micro/compact guns quickly, and prefers to shoot medium to large frame pistols instead. So don't discount the fact that she might want a gun that she enjoys shooting, just as much as she enjoys being able to carry it. I guarantee that if I brought a Glock 26 and a 6" 38 special to the range, she would enjoy the .38 more.
  12. Maelstrom

    Maelstrom Active Member

    Jun 3, 2008
  13. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Senior Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    Why would anyone think that a Hollywood script writer would know anything about firearms? Even more so, why would anyone think that anything seen in a Hollywood production contained anything of value about the subject of guns?

    What ever knowledge I may have about firearms didn't come from movies, TV shows, or video/computer games. I sure wouldn't want to go to a doctor or lawyer that used movies as a role model. :banghead: :banghead:
  14. Voodoo1951

    Voodoo1951 New Member

    Nov 8, 2008
    Florida's Space Coast...
    Snubbies are Cool...

    I love my snubbies and that is all I carry now. Autoloaders are too finicky for my tastes. If I gotta' shoot some creep, I NEED it to go BANG, Not CLICK/JAM...But Thats just me.

  15. BBQLS1

    BBQLS1 Active Member

    Feb 12, 2008
    No, it's an old guys gun. Just watch "Way of the Gun" all of the old guys are using them!

    Really though, anybody who thinks a snubbie is a girl's gun needs to go shoot a light weight .44 Mag or airweight .357 Mag!
  16. erict

    erict Member

    Sep 15, 2005
    Clarksville, TN
    NOT a "girl's gun". My wife will not try to shoot this one after watching some of my male friends complain about it. :D

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  17. scottgun

    scottgun Active Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    It's not just about the kick of a gun. Some women have trouble operating the slide of an auto loading pistol, therefore tend to gravitate towards revolvers. This isn't the case for all women with all auto-loaders, so there is without a doubt exceptions. I had to show my wife a different way to operate the slide of my P32, Instead using her strong hand to just pull back the slide, which she was not able to do, but rather hold the slide with one hand and use her strong hand to push the gun underneath the slide.
  18. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Senior Member

    Jun 14, 2006
    Morgan County, Alabama
    Robert T. Ironside, Mannix, Kojack, Steve McGarrett, Cannon, Adam Flint, Inspector Erskine, Sergeant Friday, et al, --- all TV detectives who used snub-nosed revolvers.
    They are not "girl's" guns!.

    BTW, one of my handguns is a .38 snubbie!
  19. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    0 hrs east of TN
    There's no such thing as a "girl's gun". There's no such thing as a "man's gun" either. It makes no more sense than saying a hammer is a girl's/man's tool.
  20. woad_yurt

    woad_yurt Senior Member

    Aug 23, 2007
    36° 31' 47.1742" X -87° 21' 34.0301"
    To me, a "girl's gun" is a gun owned by a girl.

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