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They wouldn't sell you a wick for your Zippo??? My son Matt -still a little over a month from his 16th birthday- has ALREADY bought two Zippo's (and he has no interest in smoking) and YOU COULDN'T BUY A WICK WITHOUT YOUR ID??????

I must apologise, but that, sadly, is funny. But I can see the humor only because the Mighty Colorado River (5 yards wide and an average of 4 feet deep in my area) separates me from the Police State in which you live. If I had to live in The Pipple's Repooblick of Czechoslofornia, two miles north of my present home; I'd probably be very frustrated, indeed.
 
Selective service

Head down to your local post office. usually on the back counter there is a selective service card. you fill it out and turn it in. in about a month you will get some card in the mail. it seems like nothing because it would take an act of congress to bring back the draft however. depending on what you do in life you may need that stupid card. I know about 20 years ago when my brother joined LASD los angeles sheriff department he needed that stupid card. Spent all weekend looking for it at our parents house. So depending on what you do in your future sometimes you will need that card.
 
Sure thing Scrat!

Yumakid, you've got every right to laugh. The joke is on the chimps who decided minors are too irresponsible to buy a three inch piece of string. I collect Zippos, so if I wanted to get that little piece of string to do something dastardly with then I'd just get some pliers and pull it out of one of my newer lighters.

Today I was feeling a bit goofy so I messed with that cashier, I went to the Rite Aid and then headed to the craft section and got a bag of pipe cleaners. The lady rung me up and didn't ask for my I.D. or anything, then after I got my change and the pipe cleaners I say "You know what I'm going to use these for?" then she said "I dunno, arts and crafts or something?" so then I say "I'm going to use these to clean my tobacco pipe, it smokes wet and I'm going to remedy that! You saved me a trip to the tobacconist my friend!" :p It was funny as hell! She wouldn't sell me a three inch piece of string but I got her to sell me re-labeled pipe smoking paraphernalia. :D What kind of mentally lacking "save the children" state do I live in? I mean I'm tall and have facial hair, haven't shaved in weeks, obviously an adult, and they wouldn't sell me a three inch piece of string. WOW. I just don't understand it.

As I said teenagers often light parts of their body on fire with the fluid for Zippos, and that's pretty brain dead if you ask me. I can understand lighter fluid. I can understand booze, I can understand tobacco products and cigarettes, I can even understand handguns up until the age of 18.

But what really gets me is someone ACTUALLY said to themselves "Hmm, how can we keep teenagers from smoking and setting stuff on fire? Oooh, I know! We'll keep them from buying a new wick for their zippo!"

And the funny part, when I was 10 or so I'd go in there and buy pocket knives ALL THE TIME with no ID whatsoever. I bought a ten inch blade fillet knife, no I.D. whatsoever. Can you actually believe that? It's like I'm dealing with chimpanzees here!

~Levi
 
I attribute this quote to Thomas Jefferson, I could be wrong.

When asked about the possibility of a national lottery to pay the costs of the Revolutionary War the response was...

A lottery, a tax on the willing.
 
Many projects were funded by local lotteries including as early as 1612 to help fund the building of Jamestown, Virginia.
In 1748, Ben Franklin organized a lottery to fund a battery of cannons to protect Philadelphia.
And George Washington purchased the first Federal lottery ticket in 1793 to help fund the building of Federal City in the District of Columbia, and its record is a treasured item in the Library of Congress.

http://www.sellingsalesmanship.com/lotto1a.html
 
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Well that's definitely one way to think of it, I have decided I'd rather spend my money on something that I know I will get instead of something that I've only got a slight chance of getting. Cool link Arcticap! I enjoyed reading that! I knew lotteries were old, but I didn't know they had them in the founding days! Then again I think they mention having them in the Bible, they call it "casting lots"

I just found out that I was born on the same day as Elmer Kieth, March 8th. Perhaps that explains why I like my handguns to be large and powerful!

~Levi
 
You get carded for a knife? Is that a California thing? The only time I was questioned about buying a blade was when I was ten and wanted to buy a shuriken. It was just like that episode of Southpark. The old guy at the knife store counter asked me if it was okay with my mom. I had my grandmother tell him it was okay to sell me anything I wanted. From then on I was able to buy as throwing stars, Case knives, and even nunchucks. :)
They don't regulate rolling papers, pipe cleaners or any of that stuff in MS, just cigarettes, and that depends on what shop you go to.
 
They didn't card me, it was just one of those markets that is run by foreign people. They'll sell you anything if you don't have an I.D. I had mine, but they didn't card me for the stuff. But then again they know me, they are fine if I buy stuff as long as it's not... well... adult magazines or alcohol. Heck I buy lighter fluid, flints, knives, matches, etc. from them without problems, I have ever since I was 14 without any problems.

I don't think that the folks at Rite Aid would sell me the pipe cleaners behind the counter next to the tobacco pipes without my I.D. but the craft kind of pipe cleaners are what I have always used for cleaning a pipe and they don't create any problems. I've kinda gotten back into pipes lately after a long dry spell, I kinda go through times where I do and times where I don't.

I know other states are pretty relaxed and don't regulate things as harshly as Kali does, but here in California we don't sell pipe cleaners, pipe tools, lighter flints, lighter wicks, empty match cases, or anything of that nature to anyone who doesn't have an I.D. with them. In California we check your I.D. if you buy say... a cleaning jag for a .22 rifle. They did with me when I was at Big 5 sporting goods today, and we all know that a gun won't fire if you don't run a cleaning jag down the bore first. How many shootings do you think they've prevented? How many guns do you think haven't been cleaned and have fired thousands of shots?

~Levi
 
Happy belated birthday busy! Just be glad you're an older lookin feller. I'm 25 and I get carded everytime from ammo to beer to lottery tickets to cigarrettes.
 
Levi, sorry to miss the birthday; you have my belated congratulations. I have enjoyed reading your enthusiastic posts about all things firearms related. I grew up in the city and my family wasn't into guns, so I didn't get started until my early 30s, after marrying a fine woman whose Dad is a great outdoorsman. He turned me on to hunting, my wife bought me my first gun (a Mossberg 500 combo) and the rest, as they say, is history.

May you enjoy many more years of fun and safe shooting.
 
I meant, does California require a person to be carded for a knife? Are minors not allowed to buy knives in California?
 
Minors technically aren't supposed to buy knives in California. The law is that you have to be 18 to buy one, but then again I don't know any minors that don't have knives. I'm pretty sure that a minor can legally own/carry a knife. Then again some stores will sell minors a knife, and some gas stations won't card you for lighters and such. It's all very confusing.

It reminds me of that scene from "That 70's show" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPrhjdmXjck

Knives and lighters just aren't staying out of the hands of kids.

~Levi
 
In many municipalities the length of the blade is the criterion that determines if and who may carry a knife, concealed or otherwise. Generally that's 6 inches, i believe, but I've heard of places that set it at 4 inches.
 
I'm not sure of the California legal length, all my friends say that if it's less than the width of your palm then you can carry it. I asked a police officer last week and he said that as long as it folds you are legal to carry it. I guess since that's the case my 9" stiletto is fine but my 2" blade patch knife ain't good for nothin' but killing.
 
15 or so years ago we went to the St. Louis Arch and visited the museum of the Western Plains underneath. They had a metal detector, so I had to hand the park rangers my pocket knife. They checked the blade against a gauge taped to the counter to see if it was longer than 4". It was a Spyderco with a 3.75" blade, so they handed it back. I guess they would have busted me for having a concealed weapon if it were longer. That was 15 years ago, pre-9/11.

MS state law allows us to have up to a 4" blade on a folding knife, any longer than that and we're carrying a concealed dangerous weapon, unless we have a CCW permit. Swichblades are forbidden, there's not even a medical excuse clause, but spring assisted knives and knives with assisted opening is legal, which makes no sense, but that's the law. Thanks, Henry Fonda.

We're allowed to carry sheath knives of any sort while hunting or camping or at appropriate sporting events. Otherwise, we're not allowed to carry a "Bowie knife", "dirk" or "butcher knife" on our persons, but they don't have a legal definition of those things. Would I be busted with a chef's knife, since they're not carving knives? Swords aren't mentioned (other than sword canes), but I don't want to try my luck. They can't wait to use their shiny new Tasers on folks.

There's no regulations at all about pipe cleaners, rolling papers, or cigarette lighters. Propane refill cans are regulated because of huffing, same as crazy glue and spray paint. Walmart is all politically correct, they self-regulate certain air rifle and paintball gun items, anyone can buy bb's, pellets, and paintballs, but the guns and CO2 cartridges are for 16 and up.

A bright spot to it all is our high school has an archery team and the kids are allowed to bring their bows and arrows to the principal's office for practice.

I graduated HS in '88, back then, they had a designated smoking area outside where teachers and students both could smoke, if the student had a permission slip from their parents. It was that or keep having the toilets wrecked by students discarding their butts in the tank. When I was in middle school, the prinicipal would be preceded by a cloud of cigar smoke when he made the rounds. The teachers would smell him coming, so they would make sure we were at our best behavior in case he popped in for a visit.:)

Years ago, they hired a cop who had just moved here from California, he pulled his pistol on some kids and made them drop to the ground while he called for backup because one of them had a pocketknife. They fired him because he didn't know how things were done around here. :)
 
Well that's cool that there was an archery team in high school! I was in 4H years ago as a freshman, I did archery and shotgun shooting. It sure is good to know that the second amendment is still a part of youth's lives. Guns keep kids out of trouble, I remember how after I got my first firearm I became more mature and responsible. My parents allowing me to have my own firearm was probably one of the greatest things that they have ever done for me. Someday when I have kids I will buy my son/daughter their very first rifle before they get to their teen years, I don't want them to hang with the wrong people. Once a kid gets into the hunting/fishing crowd it's hard to leave. That is why I will invest in a boy's rifle to give to my kid(s) when they become old enough, I'm not holding out until they are 16 or so like my parents did.

I'm not sure, but I believe that you can carry a fixed blade in Kali, but it has to be visible and not hidden by your jacket or something. It's mighty tempting to stick my bowie knife on my belt when I'm riding the buss home from the college. That buss is full of freaks, I don't want to be seen as a potential victim but more as a sheepdog. There's just something about that buss, it smells like booze, wet dog, and sweat and everybody looks like they wanted to hurt me. I carry a blade, but still... not nearly enough. My New Model Army, now that's more like it. Too bad California doesn't accept the constitution. If they did I'd be traveling with a big iron on my hip.


The smoking zones are kinda funny at my college. Today I was puffing away at my homemade corncob pipe and sipping my coffee while there was another guy literally 10 feet away from me that got a ticket for smoking his death sticks. The cops can't say anything to you as long as you are 18 and on the other side of this wire fence or walking. I didn't like that guy too much either, he wore one of those baseball caps with the flattened out brim and the shiny stickers, and the baggy pants where the waistband is right at the kneecaps, and didn't enunciate when he spoke to that officer. And he kept looking over at me like I'm some kind of hillbilly for smoking a corncob pipe. Weirdos. They're everywhere.

~Levi
 
Levi. I have watched as California degenerated from the Golden State to the Nanny State.
 
There are too many good reasons for me to to move, question is why haven't I hauled ass over to Arizona already?

You wouldn't believe this, but I ACTUALLY managed to have a peaceful and reasonable conversation with one of the occupy crybabies that infiltrated the campus. I just talked to him and wrote down what I heard into my notebook and reviewed those notes after the vein on my forehead stopped throbbing, after my blood pressure went down, and after I lost the complete urge to slap that European socialist senseless.

It seems like they think they can control socialism. It's like saying if you set one room ablaze in a house that you can only burn down that room and keep the entire house from burning. I hope that analogy makes sense. It's delusional, it's childish, and I hate it. There are very few things that I hate, but leftism is one of them. Just look what it did to the poor Golden State. So for now, I am going to study them. I feel the need to know my enemy well, inside and out. I'll try and record my findings and who knows, maybe I'll have enough someday to publish a book containing information on these disgusting creatures. We are overrun by them, it's worse than wild hogs.

After studying them I've noticed that it seems that if you want to know which direction the lefties say is to freedom and domestic tranquility, you'll get a compass rose. Maybe the mental disorder is bringing confusion upon them?

To arms in Freedom!
~Levi
 
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