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While I agree that there wasn't the massive upsurge in crime by 'Nam vets, I think the character of the military has actually changed a bit since then.

While I was in "A" school (NTC San Diego, 1992), we had a sailor nabbed on base, by a carload of Marines. Said Marines had every intention of robbing, torturing, and killing said sailor... who had been doing nothing more than walking back to the barracks from the on-base clubs. Around roughly the same time, the rumors had it that there were areas of the Independance that were unsafe to venture alone: the gangs had actually carved out turf onboard the ship...

I'm NOT going to say that we'll have Demolition Man style gang warfare. But it wouldn't supprise me in the slightest to find out that many of the streetgangs currently operating start getting more paramilitary...
 
I don't believe thet fighting Muslim insurgents in Iraq will turn a US Soldier into a Muslim insurgent.
I also don't believe a radical Muslim of US nationality will join the Army, fight his 'brothers' just to learn how to plant IED's.
You all understand when somebody says that not the gun, but the one who uses it (for crime) is the problem.
So unless you bring home muslim insurgents you won't be seeing IED'S. Just like having a gun doesn't make you a killer, knowing how to plant an IED doesn't either.
 
I don't believe thet fighting Muslim insurgents in Iraq will turn a US Soldier into a Muslim insurgent.

Why would they have to become a Muslim insurgent?

Plenty of things that people in the U.S. are willing to kill for: drug turf, numerous political causes (Weathermen Underground), nationalist causes (pro-Puerto Rican attack on US Congress), Racial Holy War, you name it.

Yes, 9/11 killed a lot of people, more than any attack in quite a while. It was also the _only_ large attack on U.S. soil by Muslims. The previous WTC bombing killed six people. Sucks for those six, but that's nothing compared to the OKC bombing. Heck, up until 9/11 all kinds of hippy spinoff groups had higher US-soil kill counts than Muslim terrorists, to say nothing of black power extremists, white power extremists, anti-abortion extremists, anti-Jewish extremists, anti-capitalist extremists, etc.


The overall point is that all the little tiny quarelling American factions could conceivably be learning something about insurgency from fighting in Iraq. I'm not particularly convinced. I will admit, LCpl Raya did do a nice "cut the pie" move around the corner when he went beserk (see video footage in my above post), but it didn't do him much good.

-MV
 
What Lind talked about is entirely possible. And in fact all too probable.
Only a very small percentage of our servicemen were gangsters pre service.
However only a very small percentage of the Iraqi populace is actually active
in their attacks. Many may sympathize but only a few in proportion are active. Thats all it takes.

The worst thing that people do is deny something could happen. To say that this man is insulting our country and our military is closed minded and stupid.
In fact the real question is not could it happen but why has it not happened more often already.

Think about it. Everp propane delivery truck, every gas tanker on the road,
countless other commercial vehicles and train cars carry the makings for meagatons worth of death and destruction. The real miracle is that most mishaps involving these are simple accidents. It would be a simple task to make these things intentional. To deny the possibility that something untasteful could happen does nothing to lessen the chance it could occur.


Remember, the Murrah building was bombed by basically one disaffected former soldier with a little help from just one friend. For a determined anarchist anything is possible.
 
I'm shocked by the statements made in this thread.


For one, a number of members have taken the LOW ROAD and have chosen not to debate and provide counter arguments, but rather to smear and character assassinate.


Some people are obviously disturbed by what Lind said. You can see the blind nationalistic patriotism screaming out almost instantly. Nothing wrong with that, but to accuse others of being unpatriotic is wrong. Our enemies do that, not us.


I think people are missing the point of his article completely. For one, the whole gang thing is being dramatically taken out of context. U.S. soldiers will not be joining gangs or an American insurgency in any significant numbers. And Lind did not say they would, but some people insist on injecting this falsehood into the discussion.


Furthermore, Lind said nothing remotely anti-patriotic, nor anti-US soldier. Not in the slightest. He gets paid by think tanks which sell their information to customers, primarily the Department of Defense. They want all opinion presented to them, and they decide which is the most accurate or useful.


Others went on to argue that 4th Generation Warfare is some made-up horse dung. Well, then, what do you call what is happening in Iraq? We should fight them 2nd Generation style with artillery barrages and lines of battle, or 3rd Generation style, with maneuver warfare (blitzkrieg)? Neither works, because there isn't any State led opponent.


This leads me to believe that a number of people are ignorant of subject. They should read more introductory materials on the subject to gain a basis of the terms and ideas first. If you don't know, then obviously what Lind is saying sounds like complete madness.


Finally, Lind is using euphemisms to discuss a difficult subject. What he's alluding to is a future where if the people actually fight the government in a battle against tyranny, the methods used in Iraq are precisely what will be necessary here to combat the government, and that soldiers who fought in Iraq are learning the skills of the trade. Lind is an analyst and a military theorist. He's speaking in very general terms about warfare as a movement over time. It clearly makes sense that warfare is starting to shift away from state-vs-state to 4GW. States dominate the Earth. And States are merging into super states. The US, the EU, the Russian Federation...there will be a North American Union one day, perhaps an African Union and whatnot. The world is not talking about secession, but merger. This leaves less enemies between states, and leaves super governments in control of masses. The future will be citizens vs. state. Religions vs. state. Non state entities combating states.


In literally DOZENS of my posts, I've said it over and over again, what is happening in Iraq is truly educational from the perspective of citizen vs. government. I don't side with the terrorists or their cause. They're scum that need to be eliminated, but that's not the point. It is the tactics. People believe that you cannot fight a government with little means. It is possible. Modern warfare against tyranny will be extremely cold, violent and downright awful. It will be the ugliest of wars. Sniping, assassination, reprisal killings, kidnapping, terrorism, bombing, sabotage, propaganda....just to name a few things. It will be like Iraq is right now. A bloodbath. It is the most savage form of warfare, since suffering is the primary weapon.

Ever see that Juba video? It is an Iraqi sniper who takes shots at unsuspecting US soldiers. Replace that soldier with a police officer. :(

It is easier to do these things to the authority of the state than it is for the Iraqis to do it to the Marines. We have better (more precise) rifles, and police are less protected (no plates on daily duty and no armored vehicles on daily duty). The government isn't stupid. They know these things, but most gun owners on this forum just attribute gun-grabbing to some flawed political ideology like liberalism. It is not. It is a direct move to limit, as much as possible, the people's means to do these things.

All it takes is a handful, like 5-10 gang members who served in the military to teach a few insurgents in America how to make bombs. Those links posted in this thread PROVE that our military, in desperation to meet recruitment goals, has turned a blind eye to the character of a small, small minority of recruits with gang loyalties. I think his statements about gangs are irrelevant, since America is full of engineers, electricians, machinists and whatnot to where we're better equipped and skilled to figure out how to make IEDs and bring misery and destruction to society. A video posted here on THR, shows an Iraqi machine shop cranking out well-machined suppressors for insurgent sniper rifles. Every machine shop in America has the capacity to produce suppressors, AP bullets, auto sears, burst cams, canisters for shaped explosives...you name it. The government would never be able to control them all, or even a fraction of them. The American freedom fighter is the most deadly instrument on Earth. We just don't have a reason or a cause to take up arms (yet). Like the Oleg poster about Molon Labe and the Spartans that says "we'd fight even harder"...that's not joke.


Iraq is NOT like Vietnam. Not in the slightest. Because of the war in Iraq, for the first time ever we are seeing truly effective methods for combating a super technological military power. Iraq is much different in that Iraq as a war has ushered in many new innovations of war. Unfortunately, these innovations are used against us, which is why many here on THR are disgusted and just think of these tactics as evil or bad. That's as hypocritical as calling a firearm bad or evil. There is no morality to a device or a tactic. Only to the motives of those using them.

Civil authorities and forces have some decent technology, but they have nothing remotely as effective as what is being deployed in Iraq by our forces. It is no mystery why we are seeing the militarization of the police in America.

Anyway, there is nothing defeatist about Lind's comments on the wars as being lost. They are being lost they way they are being fought right now. That is undeniable. You can choose to live in denial, or you can face up to realities and figure out how to deal with it to WIN. Lind's input can only help, not hurt. And Lind does not have Rumsfeld's ear. Lind's stances are quite different from those in the administration. So blaming the policies in Iraq on Lind is beyond absurd. The administration believes in a military solution, Lind believes in a political and economic solution. I don't agree with Lind on that, but I also don't see the current solution as working. All I'm saying is, don't shun different opinions and ideas. Right now, we need to explore and analyze everything we can get.
 
Just watched that Juba Video you were talking about.......:banghead:
Talk about Frustrating and Gut Wrenching to watch!!!!!.....That video is absolutely horrible.

Now, back on subject.....I personally know of a marine who is, by every sense of the word, a thug gang member......thats not me disrepecting our military, im just telling it like it is. I mean, don't get me wrong he's doing a great thing over in Iraq but I believe his heart isn't in it.....All his life revolves around is his homies and the Rap record he is trying to produce. I could show you his "myspace page" and you would see what I mean but I'd rather not reveal his identity....This is a white guy trying to live the Thug Life and all he can talk about is his homies and producing this record. This last time he was home on leave, he talked about NOT wanting to go back to Iraq and wanting to stay here to continue his record.
I say all of this to prove a point......There are Gang members in our military. When in the military and fighting a war, they are doing great things......When they get back, its back to the Thug Life........

GC
 
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I have to agree with Dont tread on me.

And I will state this...

that some people have joined the service for reasons that are not honorable. Be it plunder, rape, to murder, or whatever reasons they have. Their will always be sociopaths and psychos looking for a chance to kill people. And it is a lot easier to kill someone in a combat zone then on a street.

History is filled with people who joined the military for many different reasons. Some for the honor. Some for adventure. Some for a job. Some for the training. Some to escape their past. And some for criminal means.

Henry Hill used to profit from ripping off the military all the time. He made a lot of money doing it and he freely admitted it. He would steal excess steaks and whatnot and resell it on the streets.

There will always be criminals and profiteers. Before you all start worrying about gangmembers using IEDs and getting trained on them please remember something. Remember that non gangbangers and people without real military training have been making them for a long time. It is not that complicated appartently.
 
Don't Tread on Me: There already is an African Union. It's just not significant enough to register on the radar, as the countries that compose Africa mostly have the GDP of a smaller Fortune 500 company (at best).

But other than that, you hit the nail on the head.

Question: what do we do about a state that is also a religion? It would seem that such a nation would have a tremendous advantage over secular states in the morale and thought control departments.
 
Another question: if the insurgency's methods are getting better and better are combatting US troops, what is necessary for US troops to do to compensate and surpass the insurgents? An oppressive police state? Total war? Something else? (Honest question, I'm not trying to provoke flames.)
 
On the domestic front (which is after all what started this thing) here are Lind's thoughts on a possible counter to 4GW terror attacks in America...

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http://www.d-n-i.net/lind/lind_8_02_05.htm

On War #128
August 2, 2005

Modern Warfare Symposium

By William S. Lind

[The views expressed in this article are those of Mr. Lind, writing in his personal capacity. They do not reflect the opinions or policy positions of the Free Congress Foundation, its officers, board or employees, or those of Kettle Creek Corporation.]

I spent last week in Pittsfield, Maine, at a symposium on modern war called by Colonel Mike Wyly, USMC retired. Col. Wyly was one of the heroes of the maneuver warfare movement in the Marine Corps in the 1970s and 80s, and when he suggests it’s time for a new effort, people listen. My hope was that we might make some progress on Fourth Generation war theory, and while I am not sure we accomplished that, we did gain some ground on one important question: what might a state armed service designed for 4GW look like?

To address that question, we first had to answer another one: what would such a force’s mission be? Not being neo-Trotskyites, we derived our answer within the framework of a defensive grand strategy. The new service’s (and it should be a new armed service) primary mission would be to prevent outbreaks of Fourth Generation war on American soil. The focus must be on prevention, not “first response,” because if we are forced into a response mode the enemy has already won. And, the new service must be oriented not only to preventing imported 4GW, like that we saw on 9/11, but also the home-grown variety such as London just experienced.

But—and here was the kicker—the new service has to keep us safe without pushing America further toward Big Brother, the all-powerful, centralized, national security state represented by the Department of Homeland Security, the “Patriot Act” and much else coming out of Washington.

So what should this new 4GW armed service be? The answer of our working group at the symposium was, “a militia.”

The militia was the basis of America’s defense through most of our history as a republic. More, there are two contemporary models. One is volunteer fire departments, which small town and rural America depend on and which almost always perform well. The other is community policing, where cops walk the same beat in the same neighborhood for a long time, long enough to understand the neighborhood and prevent crimes instead of just responding to them. Neither volunteer fire departments nor community police serve as control mechanisms for the federal government. They respond to their local communities, not to Washington.

The new militia’s most important function would be neighborhood watch. The only way to prevent 4GW attacks is to find out about them before they happen, and that means the militia, like community police, must know what is happening in their neighborhoods. But again, we don’t want to feed Big Brother. Almost all of what the militia knows should remain on the local level.

How can we make this happen? Our working group decided the militia should normally report to the county sheriff, a local, elected official who has a lot of independence. Sheriffs’ powers, defined over centuries in common law, allow them to tell the feds to stick it. Nor are they under the thumb of local or state politicians. If they violate citizens’ rights, they can be unelected real fast. The militia, we also decided, would not have powers of arrest unless deputized. A separation of powers between the militia and law enforcement would also help maintain citizens’ rights.

Another danger we wanted to avoid was allowing the First Generation culture of order, still characteristic of America’s Second Generation armed forces, to carry over to the new service. Like Third Generation militaries, the militia must be outward focused, prize initiative over obedience and depend on self-discipline, not imposed discipline. We therefore determined that there should be very little in the way of formal ranks or commands and no saluting, drill, uniforms (at least none required) etc. The largest unit would be the company, with an elected captain. The captain’s duties would be mostly administrative, and sub-units could elect adjutants to handle their paperwork if they wanted to. The militiamen would be free to choose leaders on a task basis, picking whoever they thought was best qualified depending on what they had to do. Yes, this means trusting ordinary citizens to show some common sense. Republics do that; if they can’t or won’t, they are no longer republics.

Another characteristic of our anti-4GW militia is that unless mobilized, the militiamen would not be paid. Instead of pay, they would collect points toward retirement benefits and—we thought this could kill two birds with one stone—they would receive health insurance for themselves and their families. Instead of health coverage just becoming another “entitlement,” citizens who did something for their country would find their country doing something for them. We thought long-term benefits like pensions and health insurance would also help recruit the kind of people the militia needs, solid citizens capable of delayed gratification.

Next week’s column will continue this report on the results of Colonel Wyly’s symposium, including the militia. And no, the fact that we met in Maine did not lead us to consider using moose as crew-served weapons carriers.



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...And here's Part II of the article above.

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On War #129
August 10, 2005

Modern Warfare Symposium, continued

By William S. Lind

[The views expressed in this article are those of Mr. Lind, writing in his personal capacity. They do not reflect the opinions or policy positions of the Free Congress Foundation, its officers, board or employees, or those of Kettle Creek Corporation.]

This column continues #128, on the results of Colonel Mike Wyly’s Modern War Symposium, and specifically the discussion of what a state armed service designed for Fourth Generation war might look like. Since our number one goal should be to prevent 4GW attacks on American soil, our working group at the Symposium concluded such a service should be a militia.

The militia would be organized into three levels of types of companies. The first would be deployable world-wide, when our country had to respond to some event overseas. We anticipate that many of its members would be cops, as is true now of some Reserve and National Guard units, which means it would have a natural inclination toward de-escalating situations. This is what the FMFM 1-A, Fourth Generation War, suggests is the key to success in many 4GW situations.

The second type of militia company would be deployable nationwide. It would be equipped with fewer weapons than first-line companies, and would be called up to maintain domestic order and control our borders. The third-line companies would be something entirely new. They would not be armed at all. Rather, they would contain people with skills needed to restore basic services after a 4GW attack. For example, these companies would have a lot of old guys who know how to make things like water treatment plants and banks work without computers, since one obvious target of 4GW warriors will be our computer systems. All militia units, but especially the third-line companies, would have networks of civilian experts they could plug into immediately for any knowledge or skills they needed.

As is traditional with militia, no company could be called up for more than 90 days. When called up, they would be paid by whatever level of government called them up. Of course, they would perform their most important 4GW function, neighborhood watch, all the time, not just when mobilized.

We tried in our discussions to identify and find remedies to typical militia weaknesses. One weakness seen often in militia history is that units degenerate into mere social clubs. To prevent this, all companies would participate in annual play-offs in the form of free-play exercises against other companies. The winner would advance to the next level. Our hope is that these competitions would become big deals in communities across America, spurring the militiamen on to greater efforts.

Another typical militia weakness is doctrinal stagnation. To counter this, the militia would have its own General Staff, made up of the kind of “military dinks” who have been into military history and war games since they were kids. The General Staff would oversee doctrine, training and the regular round of free-play exercises. It would not vet individual militia members, since this would create centralization, but it would have the power to dissolve companies that performed poorly, became social clubs or got taken over by MS-13 and the like.

All recruitment would be voluntary. Volunteers could choose what type of company they wanted to join, level one, two or three, depending on their interests and skills. Companies could refuse any volunteer. Volunteers for first-line companies would provide their own gear, including personal weapons; crew-served weapons would be provided by the General Staff, which would also provide training funds. Second-line companies would be given basic gear, including light weapons. Third-line companies would bring their own tools. We thought carefully about where funding was to come from, because regardless of formal chains-of-command, real control goes to whoever provides the money.

This thought led to one last innovation: the militia’s General Staff would report to Congress, not the Executive Branch, except for those units which were mobilized, where the General Staff would report to the mobilizing authority (often a state governor) Congress will be generous to local militia units, because they will be made up of voters. But that was not our motive. Rather, we feared that if the militia came under the Executive Branch, it would promptly move to destroy it because it hates anything that does not give more power to Big Brother. All a President would have to do is turn the militia over to the Pentagon or DHS; either would delight in putting the knife into something that was bottom-up instead of top-down. That’s exactly what the Bush Justice Department did to the country’s most promising community policing program, the Police Corps.

Unfortunately, the Modern War Symposium broke up before each working group made a final presentation, so I cannot report on what the other groups did (lesson: three days is the maximum length for a conference; everyone leaves on the fourth). But I think we did make some progress on the question of what a state armed force intended for 4GW might look like. If the militia idea is on the right track, it would reinforce rather than undermine the qualities of a true republic. That in turn means it could strike directly at the origin of 4GW, the state’s crisis of legitimacy. Of course, it also means that everyone in Washington will see it as a threat, because Washington is united in its pursuit of the national security state and the total power it offers to the center. And that, in turn, is at least part of the origin of the state’s legitimacy crisis.

Like the original, I suspect this Gordian knot may end up getting cut rather than unraveled.

Word document available upon request.

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Thanks, Lee.

Some 50 years ago I saw the movie, "Take The High Ground". I was in Basic Training at the time; I'd already had two years of ROTC before being drafted. My thought was, "They want me to run up a mountain, being shot at? Why not sneak up at night and cut throats?" Basic taught me that most folks can't find their way to the bathroom in the dark, much less go across country to cut throats.

But I still think in a 4GW manner. I was just early on the scene. After Marion Fox but before the VC.

I was never involved in any demolition stuff in the Army. But, between some common sense, high school chemistry and a fair amount of technical understanding of our country's infrastructure, even this old tired and worn-out Old Fart could put you in the dark and leave you thirsty for longer than you'd like.

And instill fear of going to a mall, or driving through a highway cut or over a bridge...

I've never been a gang-member, either. :)

But, me, I like my neighbors. I'm pretty much unconcerned about their religion or their political beliefs.

Not everybody thinks like I do.

Art
 
The future will be citizens vs. state. Religions vs. state. Non state entities combating states.

Don't leave out the multi-national corporation. In the past, power meant owning land, and settling the countryside. It meant having large, well-fed and able populations that could rise up at a moment's notice to fight off invaders.

In the future, "power" will mean having access to natural resources, and having the ability to exploit them. It will mean controlling populations by means of supplying and restricting import of vital supplies like food and water. It will mean controlling the flow of information, and by doing so, controlling thought itself. I can easily envision corporations like Sony and Norinco doing battle over control of Taiwan...

For some insight, read a fairly old novel titled "Friday", by one of our favorite authors, Robert Heinlein...
 
I really don't see what has some people so upset here. Is it such a slap on the military to suggest that rather than redeeming our country, the armed forces are actually being diminished by the culture that they recruit from?
 
Last week, one of my students,

By far the most disturbing facet of this article is that this person is in a position to influence young minds.

My kids are in public schools, and will probably have professors like this guy in college. But they are being prepared to identify BS when they hear it, and will counter it when necessary.
 
Because of the war in Iraq, for the first time ever we are seeing truly effective methods for combating a super technological military power. Iraq is much different in that Iraq as a war has ushered in many new innovations of war. Unfortunately, these innovations are used against us, which is why many here on THR are disgusted and just think of these tactics as evil or bad.

I think there are plenty of historical examples of "truly effective methods of combating a super technological military power", from Molotov cocktails burning up Nazi tanks to big holes in the ground catching Russian tanks. Helicopters have been shot down by antiquated navy "line throwing guns". Tanks have been defeated by shooting at them from basements, where their main guns couldn't hit.

I do not see any innovations in Iraq, merely an insurgency that has had the opportunity to polish their skills.

And honestly, we're not really being that technologically sophisticated. What would our casualty figures look like if we had most of motorized patrols mounted in real armour instead of glorified pick-up trucks?

Well, then, what do you call what is happening in Iraq?

Classic guerrilla warfare, kind of like some aspects of the American Revolution.

The similarity to Vietnam is that the political situation is such that we can't just roll across the country side and destroy everything. We're trying to keep some semblance of an Iraqi nation, and the boots on the ground can't tell the good guys from the bad -- until they shoot, or set off a bomb. Kind of like Vietnam.
 
Well, for starters, that was a rhetorical question. Guerrilla Warfare is a part of 4GW. Guerrillas don't represent a state, they represent a movement.


Vietnam was different because there was the NVA and the VC. In Iraq, there is no NVA component to justify or for the military to square off against. There is no state to battle against (North Vietnam)..there are no lines or borders....


Finally, I disagree. Nothing at all in WW2 could be deemed as truly successful against the modern military superpowers. Disabling a tank, or shooting a Nazi in the back while he patrols the streets didn't prove effective in the slightest.


What the Iraqis are doing is working. They are fighting an offensive war, whereas simple resistance movements in the past fought defensive "wars"...


The Iraqis have the capacity and opportunity to actually defeat the world's superpower military. Few other insurgent/freedom fighter/guerrilla succeeded in the past. Our founders did, but they also had an organized military, and parity in arms. The Afghans had it better because we supplied them with high-tech missiles.


What I'm talking about is guys with explosives, mortars, RPG's and AK's vs our forces who have an organized and disciplined and highly trained infantry, tanks, planes, spy satellites, drones, computers, mass real time communications, night vision, investigative networks, propaganda services, unlimited resupply...


You get the picture. There's absolutely no comparison whatsoever between the equipment and training of the US forces with that of the Iraqi insurgency -- yet our forces cannot win a single "battle" with them because it is difficult to even define what a "battle" is.
 
You get the picture. There's absolutely no comparison whatsoever between the equipment and training of the US forces with that of the Iraqi insurgency -- yet our forces cannot win a single "battle" with them because it is difficult to even define what a "battle" is.

I think the difficulties in defining what the "battles" are in Iraq are due primarily to political concerns, and not military ones. We can't define a battle because we don't want to roll over the civilian population.

If we were the ones attacking Stalingrad, we'd be in the same situation that we are in Iraq. Giving that the German forces didn't give a flying handshake about the civilian population, they were able to easily define the "battle".
 
I don't have much to say on the gangs, or bashing of service members, or any of that nonsense. Let me just say this about that: </nixon> Personally, I find it eternally frustrating how "IED" has become such an evil, bogeyman of a word since this Iraq war nonsense. Now that the media/tin foil hat brigade has a term that they can wave around suddenly it's Dire News.

How is what Timothy McVeigh did at the Murrah building different from a "IED"? Hello? Now that they have a name they're supposed to turn into an epidemic?

Did this happen after Vietnam? No. Did it happen after Desert Storm? No. Did it happen after the second World War, for that matter? No.

Christ almighty, people, screw your heads back on all the way.
 
What the Iraqis are doing is working. They are fighting an offensive war, whereas simple resistance movements in the past fought defensive "wars"...

When Zarqawi was killed, letters in his position established that the terrorists were convinced that they were losing the war. What has changed things for them is the perception adopted by certain elements that they are winning, the efforts undertaken to prove that perception (including the use of fraudulent reports of victories and attacks).

They are winning a war against hearts and minds. Militarily, they haven't done anything differently than when they themselves said they were losing.
 
When Zarqawi was killed, letters in his position established that the terrorists were convinced that they were losing the war. What has changed things for them is the perception adopted by certain elements that they are winning, the efforts undertaken to prove that perception (including the use of fraudulent reports of victories and attacks).

They are winning a war against hearts and minds. Militarily, they haven't done anything differently than when they themselves said they were losing.
Actually, while I think it is true that they were losing the fight against us at some point, at some point they realized they could change it from an insurgent-vs.-U.S. thing to a nationwide civil war that would put the U.S. in an impossible situation. Which is, indeed, what has (forseeably) happened.
 
The letters were apparently current as of Zarqawi's death this year. I don't think they changed strategies and saw the effects of said strategy occur so rapidly.

What has changed in Iraq over the last couple of years, since the Blackwater incident and our actions in Fallujah? Not much from a tactics point of view, but massive changes in terms of political will and media relations.

It really is like Tet. They aren't winning on the grounds but in capitals other than Baghdad.
 
We would be well-advised to be suspicious of any "news" reporting coming out of Iraq. There is sufficient evidence for me to conclude news gathering is just as disfunctional as some think our military situation is. We have stories of atrocities being passed around without verification which were later shown to be made of whole cloth. News agencies refuse to withdraw the stories. We know now reporters by and large do not leave the Green Zone. We know now there are only 8 imbedded reporters in the entire country. Five of the imbeds are from national newspapers leaving only three from the US to cover the entire country. We now know most of the film footage is obtained from Iraqi stringers who know they get paid for boom and gore rather than for smiling faces of children. Because of email and soldier blogs we now have snippets of conversations soldiers have with "reporters" which demonstrates the news people literally have no interest in "good" news.

With this as a background I am challenged to see how anyone can make an evaluation of our situation in Iraq. Those reporting the news appear to me to be institutionally and willfully blind to anything but explosions. Why are we not concerned over the quality and source of our information about what is happening in Iraq? Why are we not holding AP to account for broadcasting demonstrable lies? Why are we not holding those to broadcast AP's demonstrable lies accountable? Why have we not seen any investigative pieces on how the news is created and reported in Iraq? Why do we swallow whole everything the media serves up knowing the process is fundamentally flawed?
 
Why do we swallow whole everything the media serves up knowing the process is fundamentally flawed?

An excellent point. Personally I haven't believed the press for a long time. Unfortunately, I don't trust the govt sources either. The sources I tend to trust the most are the mi-bloggers and other folks who have access to first-hand info. Even those sources can have faulty info due to bias or lack of access to the big picture.

They are winning a war against hearts and minds.

Yes they are. One of the hardest lessons for warriors to learn is that ultimately that is the only battle that counts. Super-duper hardware and winning battles are only means to an end, not an end in themselves. Too bad we have to relearn that lesson about every generation.
 
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