stamped AK'S Fall apart after afew thousand rounds

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If you do look you will see some AKs are nicer than others. (Vepr)
Vepr isn't an AK (it is built on a RPK MG chassis). As far as function...they are all pretty alike, the form may be a bit different, but none are all that great. They are just good enough. :)

hmmm how much work involved in making a wasr take ak mags it may be better spend the extra money on an actually AK ,right?
Not sure, never done one...I would get a Saiga and convert it myself...or better yet just get a CZ VZ-58, an all around better gun IMO.
 
one more time though sorry but no one has ever seen a quality difference in a stamped and a milled AK? accuraccy anything? if so that is great i'm looking via gunbroker right now i like the yugo's
 
Vepr isn't an AK (it is built on a RPK MG chassis).
Just trying to point out that there is variation to the pattern. You are correct, if you want to split hairs, the Vepr is based on the RPK however the RPK is a 20 in barrel rifle(LMG) and some of the Veprs used 16 in barrels more akin to an AKM. Point being same operating principal in a weapon of different specifications.
 
I have never seen a AK that didn't rattle...
I have three right now, and not a one rattles without a mag in the gun. You'll get a little with the mag in the gun, just like any other rifle with a mag in it.

...but the fact remains they are just good enough to not be terrible....The idea of a good quality AK is a myth
I'm curious what your basing this on.

i would really like to buy another do some durakote or similar paint stuff on it any suggestions on paint and or pictures
Something like this?

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one more time though sorry but no one has ever seen a quality difference in a stamped and a milled AK? accuraccy anything? if so that is great i'm looking via gunbroker right now i like the yugo's
They all pretty much shoot the same, regardless of receiver or price. The only preference I would take, would be a gun assembled originally in the county of origin over one assembled here, or at least for now.

If your not worried about price, the one rifle I'd choose over the rest, would be one of the Saiga conversions done by Krebs, and one or two others. You'll end up with a AK100 series gun, that is a Russian made AK (with good US compliance parts) returned to its original configuration.
 
I'm curious what your basing this on.
I am not saying that they don't do exactly what they were made for (they work and are cheap/easy to build). Just that they aren't really a good gun (by my standards anyway), they rattle (more the mag than elsewhere), are not accurate, the bbl flexes terribly with each shot, have a horrible fit and finish, don't handle particularly well (at least for me), are fairly expensive in the current civilian market, and are typically made of poor quality materials. :)
 
ak103k that is exactly the idea looks nice i thinking of a winter-flage with some tans so its still good for brush io dunno so meny ideas! :)
 
hmmm how much work involved in making a wasr take ak mags it may be better spend the extra money on an actually AK ,right?

if you are talking about the WASR 10/63 that are being sold everywhere right now for around 500 bucks, most if not all have been imported by century arms and they drilled out the mag wells to accept the double stack mags. if you manage to find a single stack one i hear is very easy to convert it, just use a dremel tool to expand the mag well.
 
cool thanks guys i love my poly tech and am not gonna screw with the finish i like the classic AK Look but i'm also not gonna spend $1200-1500 on another AK dont need one just want one so long short stamped is sounding like a great idea
 
any down sides to the stamped? or is stamped just that much cheaper
No downsides to stamped that I am aware of, unless you consider lighter weight a downside; for me, that's a plus, as the AK is not particularly lightweight to start with. Durability is not an issue, nor is receiver flex. Some shooters may see a teeny bit more accuracy with a milled receiver, but that is probably more a function of the higher quality barrels that may go with the more expensive milled guns, not the receiver itself. Reliability is the same. Milled looks a little nicer to some.

wasr wont accept ak mags right?
Most WASR's will, but a few imported in the 1990's won't (they were set up for proprietary single-stack mags instead but can be converted to double stack). Most WASR's take regular AK mags.

I will add that even the milled AKs are POS, they will operate forever without cleaning or lubricating, but the fact remains they are just good enough to not be terrible and happen to be quick and cheap to produce (and that is all the USSR wanted). The idea of a good quality AK is a myth, but nonetheless they don't have a tendency to fall apart.
They are good guns. Think of it as an autoloading .30-30 with a 20- or 30-round detachable magazine.

I used to own both a cheap Romanian AK and a 188-series Ruger mini-14 Ranch Rifle. Guess which one I sold, and which one I still own and shoot carbine matches with....

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nice man i love the ak'S i've seen video of people throwing mud in'em throwing them in ditches still function on fire try that with an AR LOL
 
Think of it as an autoloading .30-30 with a 20- or 30-round detachable magazine.
Good analogy...reliable, cheap, not great looking (for the most part) or terribly accurate (at least at long range); I just wouldn't spend the money on a fancy dolled up AK, that's all I'm saying. :)
 
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I think it would be fine to purchase a stamped one as I have never heard of them coming apart at the seams
 
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