I am looking for a .45 decently priced. I have always liked a 1911, but I am concerned about concealability with it,and I wonder if the technology of it is a bit dated as compared to hammerless weapons of today.Any thoughts would be helpful.
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Go rent a few and see what fits and feels good for you. You will get way a bunch of opinions here, which is good for some and just confuses others.
I really like the 1911, including its hammer and safety and grip. And there are scaled down versions to make concealed carry a bit easier. The platform has stood the test of time. That said, I do like the Browning Hi Power, but like the full size 1911, it is a bit big for concealed carry.
I really like the 1911, including its hammer and safety and grip. And there are scaled down versions to make concealed carry a bit easier. The platform has stood the test of time. That said, I do like the Browning Hi Power, but like the full size 1911, it is a bit big for concealed carry.
There are so many good .45s in all sizes and configurations out there...wouldn't know where to start.
I like the P220 as a defensive pistol, just prefer DA/SA and single stacks, but would have no issue with anything from a Glock 21 to a Colt 1911.
I like the P220 as a defensive pistol, just prefer DA/SA and single stacks, but would have no issue with anything from a Glock 21 to a Colt 1911.
I have bought fairly pricy 1911 recently and can tell you that Glock is much simpler gun to use and to add insult to injury more pleasant gun to shoot. If you want carry friendly pistol the G30S would be perfect choice.
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I like shooting a good 1911 and considerate it pleasant. I have carried a Glock as a duty weapon for 16 years. I can shoot it all I want, but rarely do outside of work related training. For a semi-auto pleasure gun, I would take a 1911 over a Glock any day
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The 1911 conceals as well or better than any other .45 on the market. Nice and thin single-stack design sees to that.
Is it dated? Sure, it's dated 1911. But old isn't the same as obsolete. It's still a very useful gun for a variety of applications.
Is it dated? Sure, it's dated 1911. But old isn't the same as obsolete. It's still a very useful gun for a variety of applications.
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the 1911 is no more dated than any other pistol.. take a glock for example.. whats special about them?.. tilting barrel as on the 1911, striker fired.. well the luger pistol had that.. "new" guns are just nothing but a different set of features that have all existed about 100 years with a few material changes along the way.. nothings really changed... so if the 1911s dated.. so is the glock, the beretta 92, all the sigs available, every HK pistol they sell and so forth
as for concealment, get a commander or officer size 1911 and call it a day.. if youre concern about ammo capacity, well just increase the muzzle energy if youd like to make up for it with a 45 super conversion ;-)
as for concealment, get a commander or officer size 1911 and call it a day.. if youre concern about ammo capacity, well just increase the muzzle energy if youd like to make up for it with a 45 super conversion ;-)
If I were looking for a conceal carry 1911 it would be something like this...http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/1911-range-officer-compact-45-acp/ or like that with the full grip.
I have a 1911 commander which is a 4.25" barrel and full grip, I like it more as a shooter and less as a CC gun do to the size and weight, mine has a steel frame. I found the Officer size grip frame to short.
I have a 1911 commander which is a 4.25" barrel and full grip, I like it more as a shooter and less as a CC gun do to the size and weight, mine has a steel frame. I found the Officer size grip frame to short.
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You might want to look at a Glock 36.
As a carry gun, they rock.
As a carry gun, they rock.
Well, I would not have a Glock if you gave me one
I've carried full-size 1911's for years under every condition and in every situation with no discomfort or displeasure. A good holster is essential. I carry IWB @ 4 o'clock and sometimes forget I am carrying. Everybody is different, but the pistol is ergonomically simple and efficient, extremely reliable, and easy to maintain. My other carry is a BHP...same comments apply. New is not always better.
I've carried full-size 1911's for years under every condition and in every situation with no discomfort or displeasure. A good holster is essential. I carry IWB @ 4 o'clock and sometimes forget I am carrying. Everybody is different, but the pistol is ergonomically simple and efficient, extremely reliable, and easy to maintain. My other carry is a BHP...same comments apply. New is not always better.justin22885
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i agree with this, and i wouldnt take a glock either, too ugly, akward grip angle, feels like a 2x4, and myths and fairy tales aside ive found them no more accurate, no more reliable than just about any other pistol in the price rangeWell, I would not have a Glock if you gave me one
downside to a single action 1911 though is you get no second strike capability.. and i know people will chime in with some tactical mall ninja tap and rack drills, but lets face it, if its concealed carry, self defense, someones on you or theres a struggle, you wont be tapping or racking a damn thing and with the adrenaline, if theres a malfunction you probably wont realize it until youve pulled the trigger another 5 or 6 times in a row.. so i would say at least a double action pistol for that second strike ability to give yourself a better chance if you have a bad primer... for that i carry a bersa thunder 45 UC pro.. same weight, length, height, and capacity as a .380 walther PPK, but 7 rounds of 45acp > 7 rounds of .380
revolvers are another thing to consider.. if you have a dud round, pulling the trigger again advances to the next, fresh cartridge.. even a better chance at getting off more rounds if you have a misfire
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It's winter. Concealing a fullsize 1911 or an identically sized Glock 41 is childs play. I've been carrying a Glock 41 in a Crossbreed Supertuck for a Glock 23 at 5:00-5:30 for about a week.
The 1911's weight can make it a pain to CCW. Even the lightweight ones are 1/2 pound heavier, and it's not uncommon for a decent Glock to be an entire pound lighter if you download them to just 8 rounds. As much as I hate to admit it, the Glock is often the superior choice for CCW.
I'm all Glock or 1911. The 1911 is safer and has a better trigger, but is much more expensive and requires more skill to operate. The Glock is more durable, lighter, and carries twice as much ammo. Even though it's trigger feels like garbage, it shoots fine. I find the Glock ergo's superior to the 1911 as well, the smooth backstrap absorbs recoil smoothly into my hands. The Glock just needs a little trigger work, and an undercut trigger guard that matches the shape of my hand. It would be nice if a 1911 was out there with a frame that seamlessly matched up to a GI arced mainspring housing.
Check out Dan Wesson, Guncrafter Industries, Colt, and the Glock 23 and 41.
The 1911's weight can make it a pain to CCW. Even the lightweight ones are 1/2 pound heavier, and it's not uncommon for a decent Glock to be an entire pound lighter if you download them to just 8 rounds. As much as I hate to admit it, the Glock is often the superior choice for CCW.
I'm all Glock or 1911. The 1911 is safer and has a better trigger, but is much more expensive and requires more skill to operate. The Glock is more durable, lighter, and carries twice as much ammo. Even though it's trigger feels like garbage, it shoots fine. I find the Glock ergo's superior to the 1911 as well, the smooth backstrap absorbs recoil smoothly into my hands. The Glock just needs a little trigger work, and an undercut trigger guard that matches the shape of my hand. It would be nice if a 1911 was out there with a frame that seamlessly matched up to a GI arced mainspring housing.
Check out Dan Wesson, Guncrafter Industries, Colt, and the Glock 23 and 41.
Justin, I am not sure what you are talking about, unless you do not carry cocked and locked. If you do not carry an SA semi auto cocked and locked, then you shouldn't carry one. If you are scared of cocked and locked, then you do not understand the weapon.
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If your adrenaline, and CQB panic, locks up your mind on a misfire, you'll just be stuck there with the trigger pulled all the way to the rear as hard as possible. NOT cycling the trigger like a relaxed shooter. (true story)
If you have the presence of mind to cycle the trigger again, then you have the presence of mind to cycle the slide.
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Nothing difficult to concealing a full size 1911, especially if you have a well designed and constructed holster and belt. I have a Colt Lightweight Government just for that reason. If you prefer something with a slightly shorter slide then a Combat Commander or Lightweight Commander would also serve you very well in terms of conceal carry. Want even less slide length along with a shorter grip frame? Check out the Colt Defender, Agent, CCO, or an older Officers Model.
Nothing difficult to concealing a full size 1911, especially if you have a well designed and constructed holster and belt. I have a Colt Lightweight Government just for that reason. If you prefer something with a slightly shorter slide then a Combat Commander or Lightweight Commander would also serve you very well in terms of conceal carry. Want even less slide length along with a shorter grip frame? Check out the Colt Defender, Agent, CCO, or an older Officers Model.
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I love my 1911 but for carry I like s smaller gun. So I carry a Springfield XDs.
An HK45 sits next to my bed. There's a lot of good options.
An HK45 sits next to my bed. There's a lot of good options.
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I carry a full size 1911 and sometimes an Officers model with no problems. Im small a 5'6" 145lbs and 30 inch waste an good holster and belt is key.
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Same here, except my carry is a Kahr PM45. Same idea though, and the XDs is probably a bit more economical per the OPs desire. I do like to carry a Combat Commander on cold days in the winter when OWB concealment is a bit more comfortable.
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I can understand what Justin was talking about, but not your response. While what you say is true, Justin did not say anything concerning condition of carry. How does cocked and locked give you second strike capability? His point seemed to be that he prefers double action so that a second strike could be attempted one handed in the circumstance when the fight becomes a hand-to-hand struggle for the gun. Not something I get worried about, but a valid point that performing a clearing action during a scuffle would not be easily accomplished. I agree with both on the Glock - I don't hate them, but haven't found anything that outstanding about them either.
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Except that a G36 carries as well as any other single stack. Its about the size of an officers acp.
I am not dissing the 1911. I have carried one. Although I no longer do. I do still have three. My old Colt is still my "go to" gun for things that go bump in the night. For carry I have switched to Glock except for my little Sig 380. A baby 1911, well sort of.
Well we agree on some things.
Everyone is in fact different.
New is not always better.
Assuming you are talking about the 1911, the pistol is ergonomic, simple, and if properly cared for extremely reliable.
However I feel that we don't have the same opinion on the BHP. Pretty much feels like a brick in my hand. (see the first thing we do agree on).
I don't even know what to say.
Except that a G36 carries as well as any other single stack. Its about the size of an officers acp.
I am not dissing the 1911. I have carried one. Although I no longer do. I do still have three. My old Colt is still my "go to" gun for things that go bump in the night. For carry I have switched to Glock except for my little Sig 380. A baby 1911, well sort of.
Well we agree on some things.
Everyone is in fact different.
New is not always better.
Assuming you are talking about the 1911, the pistol is ergonomic, simple, and if properly cared for extremely reliable.
However I feel that we don't have the same opinion on the BHP. Pretty much feels like a brick in my hand. (see the first thing we do agree on).
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I have carried a full-size M1911 concealed for more than 50 years. The M1911 is thin and flat, ideal for concealed carry. I like a "tuckable" holster with a full leather back, to keep leather between gun and skin.
I think my first question for the OP is: "What is the purpose of this .45?"
The 1911 design is old, but not obsolete, IMHO. Sure, a 1911 is heavier than comparably-sized polymers, but that might be a non-issue for you. If you don't mind the weight, or if this is just to be a range gun, the extra weight is just going to eat up recoil. I do think that a 1911 requires a little more upkeep than the plastic fantastics, but if you stay on top of that, there's no reason to think that a 1911 won't be reliable.
The 1911 design is old, but not obsolete, IMHO. Sure, a 1911 is heavier than comparably-sized polymers, but that might be a non-issue for you. If you don't mind the weight, or if this is just to be a range gun, the extra weight is just going to eat up recoil. I do think that a 1911 requires a little more upkeep than the plastic fantastics, but if you stay on top of that, there's no reason to think that a 1911 won't be reliable.
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thats why ive decided to go back to revolvers for concealed carry
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