anothernewb
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huh. I run that same load under the 158 SWC's in my model 19. shoots like a house afire.
I have 50 loaded over 3.0 grains of Bullseye. Actually more like 49 as one became sacrificial setting up the die. I have not loaded handgun in awhile so dropping 3.0 grains of powder just seems weird. Pretty sure I have some Unique around here somewhere so I will likely load the remaining 50 cases I have prepped with Unique. Over the next few days I'll get to the indoor range.I have them loaded over a pinch of Bullseye and 700-X. Hopefully I can get a feel of them over the weekend.
7.5 gr of BE-86 with the 140gr Zingers.
I have 50 loaded over 3.0 grains of Bullseye. Actually more like 49 as one became sacrificial setting up the die. I have not loaded handgun in awhile so dropping 3.0 grains of powder just seems weird. Pretty sure I have some Unique around here somewhere so I will likely load the remaining 50 cases I have prepped with Unique. Over the next few days I'll get to the indoor range.
Ron
Tell me about it.Reloadron, the 3.0gr does not take up a lot of space and it is also something I had to get used to. Unique is also supposed to work well, so I will definitely give it a try.
Tell me about it.
Sitting here and put 3.0 grains of Bullseye in the case. Looking down in the case my 3.0 grains is looking rather lonely. Then I am holding a wadcutter beside the case at about seat depth for comparison and thinking OK, looks better.
Anyway, 3.0 grains of Bullseye is literally like a drop in a bucket. Never thought a 38 Special case could look like a cavern.
Ron
The top and bottom grooves are equidistant but there is a top and bottom as you say. Load them pretty end out. There is also a distinct color difference between the .357" and .358" diameter bullets as well as they have different groove spacing between the top and bottom grooves. I am also at the point of more light is good. My reloading area is a nightmare between two rooms so I was also looking for better light. Now I can't find more handgun powder. Bullseye I have plenty but I can't find the Unique and the Win 231 is likely 1/4 Lb and 25 years old, I am going to pitch it. I must have 60 Lbs of rifle powder! Hopefully by summer's end I will have the new gun room done and some organization. The local Gander Mountain has powder, maybe tomorrow I'll take a run over there and see what they have for handgun.Reloadron, thanks for sharing the picture. Looks like we load them to about the same COL.
I'm not sure if everybody realized it, but there is definitely a top and bottom to these DEWC. My eyes are not that good, so I have to carefully inspect them before seating.
I have a K-38 S&W with a pretty worn throat. If I shoot double ended
wadcutters with 2.7 grains of bullseye. It will barely stay on the paper.
When I use swaged hollow base wadcutters I get 5 shots into one ragged
hole at 25 yards. There are guys in my club that seem to get the same
results when shooting wadcutters in .357 caliber pistols. Hollow base
wadcutters are the best for accuracy.
Zeke
The top and bottom grooves are equidistant but there is a top and bottom as you say. Load them pretty end out. There is also a distinct color difference between the .357" and .358" diameter bullets as well as they have different groove spacing between the top and bottom grooves. I am also at the point of more light is good. My reloading area is a nightmare between two rooms so I was also looking for better light. Now I can't find more handgun powder. Bullseye I have plenty but I can't find the Unique and the Win 231 is likely 1/4 Lb and 25 years old, I am going to pitch it. I must have 60 Lbs of rifle powder! Hopefully by summer's end I will have the new gun room done and some organization. The local Gander Mountain has powder, maybe tomorrow I'll take a run over there and see what they have for handgun.
Most of what I loaded will be shot in a new to me 2" S&W Model 10-5. The remainder will go through one or more of my .357 revolvers with 4" to 6" barrels.
Ron
Hopefully this week I'll get to the local indoor range and see how these things shoot in a few revolvers. That's my plan anyway.Reloadron, thanks again for the input.
I measure the top and bottom grooves and it seemed to me the bottom groove is about .01" further away from the bottom, the the top groove is from the top. I think the bottom also has a definite bevel.
Looks like you have a nice stable of revolvers. Maybe you need to add a 3" also.
Ron, these loads interest me..Does MBC suggest that you seat to the crimp groove, and then roll crimp? (As you have done)Tell me about it.
Sitting here and put 3.0 grains of Bullseye in the case. Looking down in the case my 3.0 grains is looking rather lonely. Then I am holding a wadcutter beside the case at about seat depth for comparison and thinking OK, looks better.
Anyway, 3.0 grains of Bullseye is literally like a drop in a bucket. Never thought a 38 Special case could look like a cavern.
Ron
This is true to a point..2.7 to 2.8gr. of BullsEye is GREAT for HOLLOW Base Wad Cutters.I have a K-38 S&W with a pretty worn throat. If I shoot double ended
wadcutters with 2.7 grains of bullseye. It will barely stay on the paper.
When I use swaged hollow base wadcutters I get 5 shots into one ragged
hole at 25 yards. There are guys in my club that seem to get the same
results when shooting wadcutters in .357 caliber pistols. Hollow base
wadcutters are the best for accuracy.
Zeke
This was not a MBC load or method. This was pretty much a "me" thing and until these actually run down a barrel I am not suggesting this to anyone.Ron, these loads interest me..Does MBC suggest that you seat to the crimp groove, and then roll crimp? (As you have done)
Most wadcutters are seated flush, or just above flush, with a good taper crimp.
Just food for thought..Bill.
I've never had any leading with MBC's traditional lead bullets so I never bothered with the PC. Glad to see they're working out for you!
The commentary about DBWC charge increases are correct. I put 2-3 thousand rounds down the barrel of my model 14 a year at about 3.1 grains of bullseye
Is this correct?? Your charge listed should be for a SOLID base Wad Cutter. Hollow base loads should max out at 2.8gr. of BullsEye..3.1 is my pet load for my model 14 with MBC HBWC
that was fat fingering on my part. .1 to .2 There's no way I can measure to .01Wow, powder charges to the hundredth of a grain, bullet diameters to half a tenth.
I need some new measuring equipment.
Is this correct?? Your charge listed should be for a SOLID base Wad Cutter. Hollow base loads should max out at 2.8gr. of BullsEye..
FWIW, I did not know that Missouri Bullet Company made a HOLLOW Base Wad Cutter??
Specs, and design matter in this loading hobby...Bill.