Note that the 4473 asks specifically in question 2 for, "Current Residence Address." Question 2 also specifically says, "...Cannot be a post office box."
^^ But when someone relocates where he lays his head at night, then has his mail re-routed to follow him, that's a pretty good indicator that he has, in fact, moved, isn't it?
No.So, could I take some mail like a bank statement that has my current residence on it and my photo Id that has my permanent address on it. Use my current address on form 4473 and show my ID even though the addresses don't match.
ONCE AGAIN.........If your government issued photo ID does not show your current residence address, you must provide the dealer with another government issued document that shows your name and your current residence address.What about people who live in a RV and travel the country with no permanent residence?
What about people who live in a RV and travel the country with no permanent residence?
Bikemutt, remember that you still have to put your current residence address on the 4473, even if you're buying a long gun. If you're not currently living at the address that's on your drivers license, then you can't put that address on the 4473.bikemutt said:If your'e lucky enough to be traveling the fruited plain in an RV it's more than likely you'll have a driver license. That should suffice in most states to buy a long gun.slumlord44 said:What about people who live in a RV and travel the country with no permanent residence?
Bikemutt, remember that you still have to put your current residence address on the 4473, even if you're buying a long gun. If you're not currently living at the address that's on your drivers license, then you can't put that address on the 4473.
I wonder if it's possible then to have a valid address where one lives without ever going there? If not then I guess full time RV folks can't buy a gun from a dealer.
- 1a : the act or fact of dwelling in a place for some time b : the act or fact of living or regularly staying at or in some place for the discharge of a duty or the enjoyment of a benefit
- 2a (1) : the place where one actually lives as distinguished from one's domicile or a place of temporary sojourn (2) :....
I wonder if it's possible then to have a valid address where one lives without ever going there? If not then I guess full time RV folks can't buy a gun from a dealer.
Well, they can't, not really.people who live in a RV and travel the country with no permanent residence?
So putting the pieces together, it would seem that as long as someone "regularly stays at" the address on their valid DL, they should be good to go on form 4473. .....
- The Seventh Circuit affirmed Matthew Queen's conviction for making a false, material statement on a 4473 when he listed as his current address an address at which he no longer lived (U.S. v. Queen, 408 F.3d 337 (Fed. 7th Cir., 2005)).
- The Eleventh Circuit affirmed David Garrity's conviction for making a false, material statement on a 4473 (United States v. Garrity (No. 16-10930, 11th Cir., 2016). Garrity bought a gun at a Gander Mountain in Florida listing a Florida address as his current address. That address matched the address listed on his Florida commercial driver's license. He also registered and insured two vehicles at that address in Florida, and he voted in Florida. However, it turned out that Garrity's home was actually in New Jersey, where he lived with his family. The Florida address was that of a friend with whom he stayed when his work as a truck driver took him to Florida.
They certainly do.Liars mostly always get caught if they tell the lie enough times.
That becomes a question of intent.Surely there has to be a way to not make liars out of honest RVers.
But that's not the point. Actually folks who commit crimes can get caught in all sorts of ways, some of which could be serendipitous......Liars mostly always get caught if they tell the lie enough times....
So, if my driver's license only has my PO Box, my C&R FFL with both addresses should suffice, correct? I've had two dealers turn me down. I know it's up to their discretion.ONCE AGAIN.........If your government issued photo ID does not show your current residence address, you must provide the dealer with another government issued document that shows your name and your current residence address.
If the people living in an RV and travelling the country cannot provide the required documentation then they cannot acquire firearms.
yupSo, if my driver's license only has my PO Box, my C&R FFL with both addresses should suffice, correct? I've had two dealers turn me down. I know it's up to their discretion.
The Form 4473 requires the buyer to give his current residence address. Where you own property, "get mail" or what matches your CCW permit is immaterial. It must be your actual residence address. If your government issued photo ID does not match your current residence address then you'll need to provide another government issued document that shows your name and your current residence address. If you cannot provide such documentation then the dealer is prohibited from selling you a firearm.
Homeless people have no 2A rights apparently.
The law hasn't changed since 1968.
If you lie on the Form 4473 you commit a Federal crime. The dealer has to abide by Federal law. Since you are living at a friends farm, that is your current residence address.