Last gun till I move out of the house

My parents told me that I can buy only 1 more gun until I turn 18 and move out.

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Have you considred running away?

An M1A..you almost have enough money..Keep Saving.




A FAL is nice..but not as nice as the M1A..the M1A just plain shoots rings around the FAL.

the problem w/ your question is that it is so open that all you'll really end up getting is everybody elses wish list.

if you just want a gun to have and to hold w/ no real intended purpose, a 1911 (colt is my preference) or an ar.

right now, i'm attempting to hunt down another dedicated varminter. therefore i reccomend something like a rem 700 vls, or winchester stealth chambered for 308 (7-08 would be better, but good luck finding one factory chambered like that).

anyway, a rifle like this would allow you to expand your skills into the long range stuff which is, to me at least, fascinating.

Bostonterrier97:

the M1A just plain shoots rings around the FAL.

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If you're saying the M1A is more accurate than the FAL, wouldn't it be the other way around?

nsf003:
If I were you, since you have a pump shotgun, a handgun, a .22 and a .30 cal bolt gun, I would probably lean towards a battle rifle. My personal pick would be an M1 Garand- not only is it an excellent rifle and a piece of history, it also shares ammo with your bolt gun. Just my $.02
-Nic

I would get the M1 Garand and a case of milsurp .30 cal M2 ball in the en bloc clips.

Well, my wish list is a bit more eclectic than those listed here but I'll try to stay focused anyway...

I consider the following a solid battery, not too extreme but not cheap either:

22 rifle auto, bolt or lever (10/22 is a strong contender)
223 or 7.62x39 Rifle (AR or AK, SKS is a good value here)
Accurate larger bore bolt rifle, 308 or 30-06 with scope (maybe a 700ADL)
12 Gauge Pump (870 is my choice)
22 pistol or revolver (Mk II or my Dan Wesson)
357 Magnum (686)
9mm or 45 ACP pistol (1911 or CZ)

Based on this, looks like you're pretty well covered. I'd probably look at said 1911 or a CZ/EAA in 9mm. The 9 will certainly be cheaper to shoot and probably cheaper to buy the pistol itself. Of course, a centerfire rifle capable of shooting up cheap ammo might be a good choice as well.

I voted for a 1911. I'd probably look at a Springfield Loaded. Parkerized or stainless.

I got a 1-MOA, FAL. That's probable not accurate enough for self-defense. I'd probable need sub-moa accuracy for...................... mosquitos..... or something.

hell, when I turned 16 buying a car was my highest priority!

003, you've already answered your question.

What's missing is a good 22 lr rifle.

Don't go cheap. A Ruger 10-22 or a quality bolt gun; maybe a higher end lever gun.

Like you said, most useful and economical.

I would buy some sort of "assault" rifle and all the pre-ban mags you can afford just in case the AWB is replaced with something worse when it sunsets in 2004.

1911 -Springfield -you already have enough cash to buy it.

I'd also recommend an evil, liberal antagonising, black rifle of some sort....and as someone else mentioned all the mags you can afford.

I'd suggest either a .22 rifle or a battle rifle (FAL/M1A/Garand - whichever fits you best). You may not be able to get a battle rifle in the near future, and a .22 rifle will allow you to do a ton of practice shooting without spending too much. Which is more important? I dunno. One possible compromise would be to buy a .22 rifle and a bunch of battle rifle mags.

I too have a FAL that shoots just a hair over a MOA all day long! I guess then I too must sell and get a springfield with those superior cast parts and low cost repairs and tuning.


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Kid, either you got a job for the tool or a tool that looks cool, get the one to fill the need, you might never get a second chance. Takes me a year or more to save for a pop gun. Don't be afraid to beat feet and hunt alittle might turn up a oldie but goody. Like the FAL above, a gent had it built, tuned, and tested but sold it for less for other reasons.

But the best advice I ever was told, pick one wait 30 days and if you still want it, then buy it, if not wait again.

Do you prefer shooting pistols or rifles?

If pistols then you need a good autoloader. Get a 1911 or a nice high-cap 9mm (I love my CZ. SIG, Beretta, S&W, Glock, Taurus PT 92, BHP, etc. are also nice). I'd say probably the 1911 since you mentioned it so you probably want one more, but also consider a 9mm- it is a viable defensive caliber and the practice ammo is cheap (esp. important if you plan to be a poor college student in the near future).

If you prefer rifles then you need something cheap to shoot. A .22lr is an obvious choice. I love my Marlin 60. On the 10/22 I buck the trend, I don't like mine very much (though it is reasonably accurate and reliable). If you want something more a .223 or 7.61x39 would also do the trick (the ammo isn't much more than the higher quality .22lr stuff). I have an SKS, mine isn't very accurate but it is 100% reliable. I'm in the market for either a Mini or an AR myself this year.

Other considerations for a 16 year old with $850 in the bank (you already have a great start on firearms, esp. for a 16yo):

-When I was 16 if I had $850 to spend I probably would have bought a cheap car or save for something nicer.

-Hold on to it, and add to it, for when you get to college. Trust me, as a poor college student you will more than appreciate it.

IF you really want a gun now, these two seem like good arguements for the .22lr rifle. For $100-110 (Marlin 60) and easily for $150 or so (Remington 597, Ruger 10/22) you can have a good gun and still have a lot of money left over for a car, for spending money when you get to college, for seed money for a business venture, for...

Ak-47 SAR-1

$300 rifle
$80 about 10 30 round mags
$85 for a 75 rd drum
$80 for 1000 rd case of ammo
$125 for a Kobra Red dot scope
Cost of seeing the old farts at the Rifle range looking funny at you
$Priceless

Grand Total : $670

$875 - 670 = $205 left over for candy.

Ak-47 SAR-1

$300 rifle
$80 about 10 30 round mags
$85 for a 75 rd drum
$80 for 1000 rd case of ammo
$125 for a Kobra Red dot scope
Cost of seeing the old farts at the Rifle range looking funny at you
$Priceless

Grand Total : $670

$875 - 670 = $205 left over for candy.

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Can't say it any better then that!

You already have a Remington 30-06. There's you reach out a touch someone gun. The AK is for the in close ugly work. Besides it's $80 or so for Wolf 7.62 x 39. You can shoot a case a month and not break the bank

Well as someone else already said, you are going to get our wish lists. But what is wrong with that?

As a youngster of 25, here is what happened to me. I "bought" my first gun at 17, it was an SKS (I highly recommend, they are cheap, and the ammo is cheap). I already had numerous sporting rifles since I started hunting at age 6, but the SKS was my first actual rifle. I would recommend an SKS or an AK. They are cheap, fun to shoot, and ammo is cheap.

Now just because you get one more gun doesn't mean your shooting days are over. As soon as you hit 18, you can buy all the rifles you want. I haven't bought a firearm in at least a year (don't get married or buy a house until you are pretty much building your collection), so from about age 18 till age 24ish, here is what I did. I know how have over 20 firearms, a complete Dillon Precision reloading setup (RL 550B), and all the accessories (I used to have a $1000 gun safe at my parents house, but when I moved into my new house, they bought it from me and I was supposed to use that money to buy a new one, it went towards the downpayment on the house! :banghead. Here is the rough order I bought them in.

Age 17
SKS

Age 18
M1 Carbine

Age 19
Taurus PT92C 9mm (parent had to buy it for me)

Age 20
Colt 1911
Mosin Nagant Model 44
Another M1 Carbine

Age 21
M1A
Glock 27

Age 22
Ishapore MKII .308
Remington 700 VS in .308

Age 23
Another Ruger 10/22
Yugo Mauser
Swedish Mauser

Age 24
Mosin Nagant 91/30
Remington Model 870P
Schmidt Ruben K-31

Age 25
Model 1903 .30-06
Model 1903A3 .30-06
M1 Garand .30-06

As you can see, your firearms spending might not be much now, but as you get older and slowly make more money, you will buy more firearms. I was going to college from age 18 to age 21. All of those firearms were bought on a students meager earnings. From 21 on, I bought more firearms because I didn't have a house payment, a car payment, and I spent my money wisely.

You have a rich and prosperous firearms heritage ahead of you. Try not to be in too big of a hurry. Start small, enjoy what you have. As you get older and earn more, spend more. The only other thing I can say is even though at this time reloading might not be the forefront of your thinking, eventually you need to face the fact that you are going to want to reload. I used to be content buy my ammo in bulk at gun shows. At age 22, I saw the light and started reloading. What a wise choice in my firearms career.

Whatever you chose, enjoy it.

AR-15

Why? Because every young man should know his nation's service rifle. It's a gentleman thing. Girls will like you better.

To be honest... a .22lr rifle would prolly serve you better in the long run, but well.. it's the principle of the thing, you know?

-K


PS.. don't know what your local shops have, but AIM is carrying new bushmaster A2 20" for $699, A3 20" for $770, M4 clone (ick I think, but to each is own) for $750

If you purchase an AR-15 then you can always buy a .22 adaptor.