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Since interest in Pistol Caliber Carbines (PCC) seems to be increasing, starting a new support thread to help members/guests with their builds and component selection.
I have Just Right carbine and several PCCs using mag blocks and dedicated lowers. JR carbine is used as my primary accuracy testing platform -
- Just Right Carbine uses 1:16 twist rate barrels, modular magwells to accept Glock/M&P/1911 magazines, mag release button on the left side of magwell (compared to right side for AR based lowers), and caliber change kits for 9mm/40S&W/45ACP - http://www.justrightcarbines.com/product/caliber-conversion-kit/
- Palmetto State Armory and many other brand uppers use 1:10 twist rate barrels.
- PSA sells 45ACP uppers with 1:16 twist rate barrels and lowers - http://palmettostatearmory.com/ks-47-ar-45-ar-9/ar-45.html
- Dedicated lowers often feed and chamber more reliably than AR lowers with mag blocks.
- Colt pattern dedicated lowers and AR lowers using mag blocks retain last round bolt hold open (LRBHO) feature.
- Just Right carbine, Palmetto State Armory, New Frontier Armory and other brand dedicated lowers do not retain LRBHO.
- New Frontier Armory and other vendors offer LRBHO upper - https://newfrontierarmory.com/shop/pc-billet-ar-9-45-slick-side-upper-lrbho/
- PSA, NFA and other dedicated lowers have mag release levers (not buttons) on the right side of receivers.
- New Frontier Armory and other vendors offer side charging uppers - https://newfrontierarmory.com/shop/side-charging-ar-9-stripped-billet-upper-with-lrbho/
- New Frontier Armory manufactures products sold under different brands and logos.
- Joe Bob Outfitters sells New Frontier Armory products with their own logo (Spartan) often at lower prices (free shipping on $90+ orders) - https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Pistol_Caliber_AR_Parts_s/156429.htm
- With carbine recoil spring, 19-22 oz combined weight of buffer and bolt produces more comfortable felt recoil. 16-18 oz combined weight produces harsher felt recoil.
PSA bolt 14.7 oz + PSA buffer 5.3 oz = 20 oz combined weight and produces comfortable felt recoil with various 9mm loads. For longest "in battery" time for more consistent chamber pressures, use heaviest buffer that will reliably cycle the bolt. With 20 oz combined weight, my PCCs will cycle even lighter target loads (115 gr RMR FMJ with 4.6 gr W231/HP-38 or 4.1-4.2 gr Red Dot/Promo) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-what-am-i-in-for.824002/page-3#post-10606695
Here are some more for reference:
- H1 buffer weighs 3.8 oz
- H2 buffer weighs 4.6 oz
- H3 buffer weighs 5.4 oz
I have Just Right carbine and several PCCs using mag blocks and dedicated lowers. JR carbine is used as my primary accuracy testing platform -
- Just Right Carbine uses 1:16 twist rate barrels, modular magwells to accept Glock/M&P/1911 magazines, mag release button on the left side of magwell (compared to right side for AR based lowers), and caliber change kits for 9mm/40S&W/45ACP - http://www.justrightcarbines.com/product/caliber-conversion-kit/
- Palmetto State Armory and many other brand uppers use 1:10 twist rate barrels.
- PSA sells 45ACP uppers with 1:16 twist rate barrels and lowers - http://palmettostatearmory.com/ks-47-ar-45-ar-9/ar-45.html
- Dedicated lowers often feed and chamber more reliably than AR lowers with mag blocks.
- Colt pattern dedicated lowers and AR lowers using mag blocks retain last round bolt hold open (LRBHO) feature.
- Just Right carbine, Palmetto State Armory, New Frontier Armory and other brand dedicated lowers do not retain LRBHO.
- New Frontier Armory and other vendors offer LRBHO upper - https://newfrontierarmory.com/shop/pc-billet-ar-9-45-slick-side-upper-lrbho/
- PSA, NFA and other dedicated lowers have mag release levers (not buttons) on the right side of receivers.
- New Frontier Armory and other vendors offer side charging uppers - https://newfrontierarmory.com/shop/side-charging-ar-9-stripped-billet-upper-with-lrbho/
- New Frontier Armory manufactures products sold under different brands and logos.
- Joe Bob Outfitters sells New Frontier Armory products with their own logo (Spartan) often at lower prices (free shipping on $90+ orders) - https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Pistol_Caliber_AR_Parts_s/156429.htm
- With carbine recoil spring, 19-22 oz combined weight of buffer and bolt produces more comfortable felt recoil. 16-18 oz combined weight produces harsher felt recoil.
PSA bolt 14.7 oz + PSA buffer 5.3 oz = 20 oz combined weight and produces comfortable felt recoil with various 9mm loads. For longest "in battery" time for more consistent chamber pressures, use heaviest buffer that will reliably cycle the bolt. With 20 oz combined weight, my PCCs will cycle even lighter target loads (115 gr RMR FMJ with 4.6 gr W231/HP-38 or 4.1-4.2 gr Red Dot/Promo) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-what-am-i-in-for.824002/page-3#post-10606695
Here are some more for reference:
- H1 buffer weighs 3.8 oz
- H2 buffer weighs 4.6 oz
- H3 buffer weighs 5.4 oz
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