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Who thinks a sling on a home defense rifle or shotgun is a good idea? Do you think it could get snagged in the confines of a home, or offer an intruder more leverage to disarm you? Or is it beneficial?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Hands can also be needed during HD for things like grabbing/scooping children, calling 911, and so forth. HD is more than just a-shootin' at varmints.Slings are for using your hands for something else. Home defense your hands should be on the gun or it should be stowed.
Bad idea; yes it can easily get snagged; yes, it is just one more thing foe the BG to grab and take your gun awayWho thinks a sling on a home defense rifle or shotgun is a good idea? Do you think it could get snagged in the confines of a home, or offer an intruder more leverage to disarm you? Or is it beneficial?
Thoughts?
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole situation as you envision it, but if someone is trying to disarm you by grabbing the sling of your gun, thats a perfect opportunity to shoot them with either the long gun or a sidearm.it is just one more thing foe the BG to grab and take your gun away
Well no one should have a gun because everyone is going to be killed by someone with that logic.Very bad idea. You only need slings for long-term carrying or traversing. Other examples are for Guard duty.
@Telekinesis It doesn't always work as you plan it, what if that person is stronger than you and has one hand on your gun pushing it towards the sky and the other on your sling getting ready to roll you on your back so they can leg lock you up and break your arm? You have to realize that you don't always get a clear shot and the gun doesn't always work every time. You have to think about those times where you KNOW that to be the case (which could be EVERY time which is why you are to train and prepare for that).
As a different example, what if the perpetrator was armed, had one hand on their pocket pistol already aimed at your face with their finger on the trigger and their other arm was manipulating your sling to disable or disarm you entirely? What if the Sling was a detriment that merely allowed the attacker a foothold to finish you off? Realize that you don't always have the upper hand and there is always someone better than you.
What about another scenario? The guy is hiding in the darkness and you don't see him, he uses stealth to his advantage and grabs you from behind as you pass him walking through the hallway or doorway. He's got you good and that sling is merely helping him to strangle you, you can't escape and now you're toast.
Really, if the perp is unarmed and you want some thing long and intimidating that they can't grab ...a good ol' sword would do the trick! Can't grab that without suffering the consequences and it can inflict less than lethal blows while still incapacitating or other wise debilitating a target.
Very bad idea. You only need slings for long-term carrying or traversing. Other examples are for Guard duty.
@Telekinesis It doesn't always work as you plan it, what if that person is stronger than you and has one hand on your gun pushing it towards the sky and the other on your sling getting ready to roll you on your back so they can leg lock you up and break your arm? You have to realize that you don't always get a clear shot and the gun doesn't always work every time. You have to think about those times where you KNOW that to be the case (which could be EVERY time which is why you are to train and prepare for that).
As a different example, what if the perpetrator was armed, had one hand on their pocket pistol already aimed at your face with their finger on the trigger and their other arm was manipulating your sling to disable or disarm you entirely? What if the Sling was a detriment that merely allowed the attacker a foothold to finish you off? Realize that you don't always have the upper hand and there is always someone better than you.
What about another scenario? The guy is hiding in the darkness and you don't see him, he uses stealth to his advantage and grabs you from behind as you pass him walking through the hallway or doorway. He's got you good and that sling is merely helping him to strangle you, you can't escape and now you're toast.
Really, if the perp is unarmed and you want some thing long and intimidating that they can't grab ...a good ol' sword would do the trick! Can't grab that without suffering the consequences and it can inflict less than lethal blows while still incapacitating or other wise debilitating a target.
So we should be carrying a SKS with the bayonet unfolded! Perfect!
So who are you fighting anyway? Ninjas? I think all of those scenarios would turn out the same regardless of if a sling was on the gun or not. I guess I'll concede the point that you can't ALWAYS shoot someone when they are trying to disarm you, especially if we're already talking about someone who already has a gun in your face.
What im really getting from your post is don't do room clearing by yourself, which is something I would agree with.
Hands can also be needed during HD for things like grabbing/scooping children, calling 911, and so forth. HD is more than just a-shootin' at varmints.
Securing a long gun while doing those things is probably easiest done by using a sling to secure the gun to your body (retention) while your hands do other things. At least that's the thinking that I've come to. YMMV.