He was Special Forces (and that was verified)
Yes, that's the way it's supposed to be done and no you aren't adding anything.Now my question is "that IS the way it's supposed to be done right?" I'm not adding some extra curricular requirement when I say there literally should not be any live ammunition in that training room am I?
What does the "dry session" consist of?
I think it might be time to find another church before someone gets killed. It might be you.
The only way to avoid ammunition being smuggled into class is to check every student. One of the best ways to do this is to have a table in front of the students and have everyone lay down their weapon. Action/slide should be open and magazines (for semi-autos) should be next to it. Students should take a few steps back. Go down the line, and one firearm at a time inspect for rounds in the firearm and magazines. If you still feel like ammo is being brought into class, check students for extra loaded magazines in pockets etc.
I'm a little confused I guess. The instructors stated that there is no live ammo in the training area. Are you saying that there is live ammo in the training area while the dry fire practice is being conducted?No one is "Smuggling" ammunition into class. They're showing up with their loaded carry weapons and unloading in class
I'm a little confused I guess. The instructors stated that there is no live ammo in the training area. Are you saying that there is live ammo in the training area while the dry fire practice is being conducted?
I do want to clarify one thing everyone that comes into the training room is required to unload their weapon and have somebody else verify that the weapon is empty and the chamber is clear. then they stack their magazines on a table or put it in the gun case or whatever.
Having said that though I still don't think that's safe. And again the rules say don't bring any ammunition into the training room.
The one time that I addressed the issue they went over the safety rules and then the head trainer asked if anybody had any safety concerns. I raise my hand and I picked up a loaded magazine from someone's gun case and I said " Your email stated no live ammo in the training area. This shouldn't be here. This isn't safe."
That's when the other guy started talking about how this was real world training and if you were going to carry a gun you ought to know the status of your weapon. He was Special Forces (and that was verified) so everybody kind of bowed before him.
I'm going to State again that I believe that if you were doing dedicated dry training there should not be a single round in that room.
Yes.
Every time they do the training the the email states:
***** NO LIVE AMMO **** is to be brought to this session. We will be training with unloaded guns and Snap Caps (dummy/inert rounds designed for training). If you have your own Snap Caps, feel free to bring them.
and every time 3/4 of the people who show up, show up with a loaded gun. They then unload in the training room and leave they ammunition in the training room?
Absolutely No Live Ammunition In The Training Area.
Does your church have a board of directors? I would request time at the next meeting, and write up your concerns... and at the meeting first state your concerns and your suggested solution, then answer any questions / dialog with the directors, then submit a copy of your writeup to each member. (If you submit it before you speak they will all be looking at it instead of at you, you will have more impact if they are paying attention while you speak.)One member of the church one professional trainer
One of the senior pastors is generally there during the training. I really believe if the day I made a complaint in the middle of the class didn't get anything done nothing else I could do will either
... Every time they send out the email it says the same thing for the dry session "Absolutely no live ammunition in the training area" and every time out of 10 or 15 people that show up about 12 of them walk into that training room with a loaded gun. ...
That said ... I would never attend such a meeting where I was expected to travel there sans ammo or unload in the parking lot prior to entering the building.
Yeah, you could live in L.A. and have to walk EVERYWHERE without your gun...If I can't walk across the parking lot without my gun I am entirely too dependent on it.
Non sequitur aside ...If I can't walk across the parking lot without my gun I am entirely too dependent on it.