Ruger LC9S trigger job. Can't wait to "see" the result.

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Well it sounds like you're happy with the results and that's all that really matters I suppose.

It's not for me,and I would wager many others, as the stock trigger is quite lovely, but that doesn't matter because this is your gun we're talking about.


BTW, if you really thought the stock trigger was that long, you should widen your variety of shooting examples. There are many more guns out there with much longer pulls.
 
Good Ol' Boy said:
...BTW, if you really thought the stock trigger was that long, you should widen your variety of shooting examples. There are many more guns out there with much longer pulls.
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Here is what it is all about. I can’t shoot long triggers worth a damn. Especially revolvers. As long as I can have a short, light, crisp trigger, I can fool folks into thinking I am a really good shot. Hence my preference for that style trigger.

Within my limited experience the stock Ruger SR1911 9mm Commander trigger is my favorite. The SR9 is okay. Now so is my modified LC9S. S&W Victory 22 is good. I have never fired a DA revolver which had a trigger I liked.

So I admit it. I am not a good enough shot to deal with long trigger pulls. But with my preferred type trigger (and a red dot), I am pretty darn good. And that is all that counts.
 
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Robert

Nice to hear that your LC9S trigger job turned out so well! Sounds like you found that happy medium where the trigger is lighter and has less travel than before but still provides you with sufficient safety that you feel comfortable carrying it.
 
someguy2800 said:
I am getting another LC9s that I'm going to get the barrel extended and threaded for a suppressor. Reason being is that I like them and in profile an LC9 has a very similar shape to a PPK, so I can play 007 but in 9mm. I may just get an EC9s since I intend to mill the top for a red dot. Considering one of these kits for that purpose since it won't be a carry gun. Not sure I want to go any shorter or lighter for my carry gun though.
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How do you get a barrel extended? Do you just buy a longer barrel? Or do you weld on an extension and mill it inside and out to a smooth transition?
 
rpenmanparker said:
How do you get a barrel extended? Do you just buy a longer barrel? Or do you weld on an extension and mill it inside and out to a smooth transition?
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There are no longer barrels available for the LC9s so I am having a gunsmith on this forum thread the existing barrel, then make an extension to thread on it which will then be threaded for the suppressor.
 
This is how I designed it but I told the gunsmith that is doing the work to do it however he felt best. I don't have the tooling and I havn't cut a thread in 15 years so I'm not going to try to do it myself.

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someguy2800 said:
This is how I designed it but I told the gunsmith that is doing the work to do it however he felt best. I don't have the tooling and I havn't cut a thread in 15 years so I'm not going to try to do it myself.

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That's good looking. I guess I don't understand how all the threading fits. There is no room outside the barrel, because it has to fit through the muzzle (?) opening, and there is no room inside the barrel, because the bullet has to pass. So how do you make it all fit? Are you opening up the hole in the slide at the muzzle?
 
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rpenmanparker said:
That's good looking. I guess I don't understand how all the threading fits. There is no room outside the barrel, because it has to fit through the muzzle (?) opening, and there is no room inside the barrel, because the bullet has to pass. So how do you make it all fit? Are you opening up the hole in the slide at the muzzle?
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Judging by his description and pictures one would assume the factory barrel would be slightly milled down and threaded so that a adapter/collar with a threaded sleeve would fit over the end of the factory barrel that would essentially equate to the same thickness of the factory barrel, if not slightly more but enough to maintain clearances. Then the can screws to the threads on the adapter.


That's just the way I read it but I could certainly be talking out of my rear. I'm sure Someguy will clarify.
 
rpenmanparker said:
That's good looking. I guess I don't understand how all the threading fits. There is no room outside the barrel, because it has to fit through the muzzle (?) opening, and there is no room inside the barrel, because the bullet has to pass. So how do you make it all fit? Are you opening up the hole in the slide at the muzzle?
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The light grey portion in the above pictures is the original barrel and the black portion is the adapter that threads on. The outside diameter of the barrel is cut down a small amount and threaded. The small stepped up diameter on the adapter just behind the hex will be the same outside diameter as the original barrel was so it will fit in the end of the slide to provide barrel lockup. The assembly process will be to put the modified barrel into the slide, then thread the adapter onto it through the end of the slide, then thread the suppressor onto it.
 
someguy2800

Sounds like a plan! Hope everything fits properly and works like it should when your done with the adapter.
 
someguy2800 said:
The light grey portion in the above pictures is the original barrel and the black portion is the adapter that threads on. The outside diameter of the barrel is cut down a small amount and threaded. The small stepped up diameter on the adapter just behind the hex will be the same outside diameter as the original barrel was so it will fit in the end of the slide to provide barrel lockup. The assembly process will be to put the modified barrel into the slide, then thread the adapter onto it through the end of the slide, then thread the suppressor onto it.
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Got it.
 
The trigger on the LC9S is scary light. I own one and it’s a great carry gun. At 10 yards the holes are all touching each other. I’m glad you’re happy with your gun but I’m not touching mine. A 3.5 pound trigger on a carry gun? No thanks. Competition gun? Sure. But the LC9S is no competition gun.

I never got into upgrades for weapons. Other than better fitting grips for revolvers or night sights, all my weapons are bone stock. There’s a whole industry for “upgrades” that I just don’t get. Riding the reset? On a sub-Compact self defense gun? What for? Make a gun that you just fired in self defense and are amped up into one with a lighter trigger? Akin to a cocked revolver? Not for me.
 
Homerboy said:
The trigger on the LC9S is scary light. I own one and it’s a great carry gun. At 10 yards the holes are all touching each other. I’m glad you’re happy with your gun but I’m not touching mine. A 3.5 pound trigger on a carry gun? No thanks. Competition gun? Sure. But the LC9S is no competition gun.

I never got into upgrades for weapons. Other than better fitting grips for revolvers or night sights, all my weapons are bone stock. There’s a whole industry for “upgrades” that I just don’t get. Riding the reset? On a sub-Compact self defense gun? What for? Make a gun that you just fired in self defense and are amped up into one with a lighter trigger? Akin to a cocked revolver? Not for me.
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IMO there is no more “competition” gun than a CCW. After all you and the perp are competing to see who is going to live and who is going to die. I want my gun for that purpose be one that I can shoot as well as my best. The length and unpredictability of the stock trigger on the LC9S made that impossible for me.

If you are afraid of your CCW, you shouldn’t be carrying it. With three different safeties on my LC9S, I respect it, but I am not afraid of it, light trigger and all.
 
I should have mentioned above that there are other factors with CCWs besides trigger pull force that are as important or more to the safety of carrying the gun. A quality well-designed holster is mandatory, one that keeps the gun securely fixed and isolates the trigger from inadvertent “touches”. And practice to proficiency drawing and reholstering the gun is likewise a absolute necessity.
 
Homerboy said:
I never got into upgrades for weapons.
...There’s a whole industry for “upgrades” that I just don’t get.
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It is just that we might have grown up in different ages or have different share experiences.

When I started seriously carrying a gun (mid-70s), it was common practice to take it from the store you bought it at to a good pistol smith to have it tuned for the specific intended purpose.

The minimum you'd have done on a 1911 was:
1. changing the sights to one you could actually see
2. throat the barrel to feed hollow point ammo
3. clean up the action for a clean let off
4. install a trigger that didn't cramp your finger
5. bevel the magwell opening
 
rpenmanparker said:
IMO there is no more “competition” gun than a CCW. After all you and the perp are competing to see who is going to live and who is going to die. I want my gun for that purpose be one that I can shoot as well as my best. The length and unpredictability of the stock trigger on the LC9S made that impossible for me.

If you are afraid of your CCW, you shouldn’t be carrying it. With three different safeties on my LC9S, I respect it, but I am not afraid of it, light trigger and all.
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rpenmanparker said:
IMO there is no more “competition” gun than a CCW. After all you and the perp are competing to see who is going to live and who is going to die. I want my gun for that purpose be one that I can shoot as well as my best. The length and unpredictability of the stock trigger on the LC9S made that impossible for me.

If you are afraid of your CCW, you shouldn’t be carrying it. With three different safeties on my LC9S, I respect it, but I am not afraid of it, light trigger and all.
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Please!! I’m not “afraid” of carrying it. It has an extremely light trigger right from the box. No carry gun should be 3.5 pounds, unless it’s a cocked and locked 1911. Hickock45 even commented on the light trigger on the SR9-C, which has a heavier trigger than the LC9-S. He said he wouldn’t carry it without a safety, it was so light. Funny he has no issue with carrying a Glock without one.

Competition with an aggressor? You think your tricked out gun is more likely to save you then when it was stock? Armed confrontations are close and fast. A 5 pound trigger versus a 3.5 pound trigger isn’t gonna matter. And riding the reset? You’re gonna be banking on that trigger like a madman.

Your tone and language implies you’re a relatively new shooter and also young. Try to get some more experience before you comment on other people’s abilities. A weekend at Front Sight doesn’t make you an expert.

Enjoy your new gun. Don’t see how spending $180 in modifications to a $250 gun is a smart move, but it’s a free country.
 
Homerboy said:
Please!! I’m not “afraid” of carrying it. It has an extremely light trigger right from the box. No carry gun should be 3.5 pounds, unless it’s a cocked and locked 1911. Hickock45 even commented on the light trigger on the SR9-C, which has a heavier trigger than the LC9-S. He said he wouldn’t carry it without a safety, it was so light. Funny he has no issue with carrying a Glock without one.

Competition with an aggressor? You think your tricked out gun is more likely to save you then when it was stock? Armed confrontations are close and fast. A 5 pound trigger versus a 3.5 pound trigger isn’t gonna matter. And riding the reset? You’re gonna be banking on that trigger like a madman.

Your tone and language implies you’re a relatively new shooter and also young. Try to get some more experience before you comment on other people’s abilities. A weekend at Front Sight doesn’t make you an expert.

Enjoy your new gun. Don’t see how spending $180 in modifications to a $250 gun is a smart move, but it’s a free country.
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You are singing to the choir about light triggers in CCW guns. My LC9S was my carry gun for years. However, even though I have trained all my life with a safety, the trigger on my LC9S was crazy light. It had worn into around 4lbs of pull. Took it to my Smith to see what he could do, and ended up sending it into Ruger and told them I would pay to have a stronger trigger. They added a spring, but did not do anything. And your are right. Shoot a stronger trigger and you shoot often, you will find that you can do as well with a heavier trigger if not better. At least I Proved this to myself. And Partly because I found a better gun that shot better and handled Recoil and muzzle filp better. So in essence, all worked out fine for me. I will still shoot the LC9S for range work. I have a lot invested in the gun. About a dozen magazines, so many holsters, and a set of nice night sights. I doubt I will ever be able to come close of recouping the cost if I were to sell it. I am a range Rat, have a lot of shooting buddies, so hope to trade it in the future.

PS just pulled the LC9S out this am. Placed a snap cap in the gun and still amazed at how light that trigger is. Go past the free play and that sucker does not have much at all of length before that very light trigger just drops. Hickcock45 did say when comparing other small Micro 9s that the 'triggers have become so light, and the LC9S especially was almost like a target gun it is so light'. I agree. Great for Bullseye, great for a rifle, not for CCW and not necessary.

Ps, It is my believe that the mass amount of sales in guns in the past few years, saw a marketing force that went to the light triggers. I saw so many LGS selling guns to the first time buyer and selling the "Light trigger". I believe I am seeing a comeback to either smooth stronger and longer triggers or to smooth double action. JMO.
 
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Homerboy said:
Please!! I’m not “afraid” of carrying it. It has an extremely light trigger right from the box. No carry gun should be 3.5 pounds, unless it’s a cocked and locked 1911. Hickock45 even commented on the light trigger on the SR9-C, which has a heavier trigger than the LC9-S. He said he wouldn’t carry it without a safety, it was so light. Funny he has no issue with carrying a Glock without one.

Competition with an aggressor? You think your tricked out gun is more likely to save you then when it was stock? Armed confrontations are close and fast. A 5 pound trigger versus a 3.5 pound trigger isn’t gonna matter. And riding the reset? You’re gonna be banking on that trigger like a madman.

Your tone and language implies you’re a relatively new shooter and also young. Try to get some more experience before you comment on other people’s abilities. A weekend at Front Sight doesn’t make you an expert.

Enjoy your new gun. Don’t see how spending $180 in modifications to a $250 gun is a smart move, but it’s a free country.
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You hit the nail on the head, just without realizing it. What is the difference between a cocked and locked 1911 with such a light trigger and a locked LC9S with the same weight trigger? Except that the LC9S trigger has a longer pull, not a whole lot. That is exactly my point. If you use the thumb safety, why shouldn’t you have a light trigger? It is okay for the 1911. Why not for the LC9S?

Also lightening the trigger was never the object of the exercise. It was shortening the pull and adding the detectable reset.

Regarding my age and experience, you are wrong on both counts. I’m 70 and have been shooting for 40 years.

Also the gun cost a lot more than $250 even at a steep discount a few years ago. Check the history and see for yourself. And don’t forget the red dot I have on it. I suspect that a purist will never approve. But there you go. My money, my choices.
 
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Jeb Stuart said:
You are singing to the choir about light triggers in CCW guns. My LC9S was my carry gun for years. However, even though I have trained all my life with a safety, the trigger on my LC9S was crazy light. It had worn into around 4lbs of pull. Took it to my Smith to see what he could do, and ended up sending it into Ruger and told them I would pay to have a stronger trigger. They added a spring, but did not do anything. And your are right. Shoot a stronger trigger and you shoot often, you will find that you can do as well with a heavier trigger if not better. At least I Proved this to myself. And Partly because I found a better gun that shot better and handled Recoil and muzzle filp better. So in essence, all worked out fine for me. I will still shoot the LC9S for range work. I have a lot invested in the gun. About a dozen magazines, so many holsters, and a set of nice night sights. I doubt I will ever be able to come close of recouping the cost if I were to sell it. I am a range Rat, have a lot of shooting buddies, so hope to trade it in the future.

PS just pulled the LC9S out this am. Placed a snap cap in the gun and still amazed at how light that trigger is. Go past the free play and that sucker does not have much at all of length before that very light trigger just drops. Hickcock45 did say when comparing other small Micro 9s that the 'triggers have become so light, and the LC9S especially was almost like a target gun it is so light'. I agree. Great for Bullseye, great for a rifle, not for CCW and not necessary.

Ps, It is my believe that the mass amount of sales in guns in the past few years, saw a marketing force that went to the light triggers. I saw so many LGS selling guns to the first time buyer and selling the "Light trigger". I believe I am seeing a comeback to either smooth stronger and longer triggers or to smooth double action. JMO.
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Jeb, I have been shooting at least 200 rounds a week for years and have never gained proficiency with long triggers, especially not with DA revolvers. Just a peculiarity of my brain and finger coordination I guess. But when I know that is the situation, it would be stupid for me not to accommodate it with gun choices that I can shoot proficiently. You know what they say, “One definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.”
 
rpenmanparker said:
Jeb, I have been shooting at least 200 rounds a week for years and have never gained proficiency with long triggers, especially not with DA revolvers. Just a peculiarity of my brain and finger coordination I guess. But when I know that is the situation, it would be stupid for me not to accommodate it with gun choices that I can shoot proficiently. You know what they say, “One definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.”
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If you feel you need a light trigger than you know what is best for your. Enjoy.
 
After reading and re-reading this thread, I cannot help but wonder if the OP's LC9S was a production anomoly.
I cannot associate my LC9s with his pre- modified pistol.
 
I have seen his post before and wondered the same. He describes his LC9S completely opposite to what I have owned and others that own them. Plus Ruger even advertises the gun as "Light Crisp Trigger". He really seems to be speaking about the original model, but when I asked him, he said no, for sure it was the LC9S,
 
TarDevil said:
After reading and re-reading this thread, I cannot help but wonder if the OP's LC9S was a production anomoly.
I cannot associate my LC9s with his pre- modified pistol.
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Say more. Does yours have a well-defined reset that is about mid-way through the full pull length? Little or no take up? Pull length (not force) similar to other striker guns you are familiar with, like say maybe the SR9 or G19? If you answered no to two or all three of these questions, then your gun is very similar to how mine was...and exactly how I described it.
 
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