"Most accurate" again in IDPA... help me speed up

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This has turned out to be a very good thread.

1KPerDay said:
Classified EX again, about 1 second out of master. Need to practice strong hand more. Need to practice draws to first shot WITH CONCEALMENT. Need to clean/check my extractor as I had a nasty FTE/double feed malf that cost me a stage. Need to just accept the fact that I'm going to have to use the slingshot method to reload with my P226, or put the original slide lock lever back in, or switch guns. The P226 has been my SSP pistol and I've been trying to keep up my iron sight proficiency on it while I shoot the M&P in Carry Optics some matches.
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I am so happy to see that you are making progress and working diligently towards a goal.

For me, this week I dry fire practiced every day (this week and the week before) and I made it to a range three (3) times (this week) for some competition. All three outings I did ok but no personal bests. Part of my plan is to start shooting CO in SCSA, the other is to do more along the lines of USPSA (actually ICORE) and keep my SCSA moving in a positive direction.

While I started using the Steve Anderson method of dry fire practice habits, I think I need to narrow my priorities a bit. Since I'm in the middle between A classification and M in SCSA OSR, I think that is where I should put my attention.

I did manage to move up 4 percentage points in my ICORE open classification which gives me optimism that I might be able to classify A in open this year. This might not sound like much but I really don't shoot much ICORE.

I also moved 3 percentage points in SCSA CO division. Here I have a ton of room for improvement. In this division I shoot like a total beginner.

I think ATLDave nails it in post #130
 
Finally broke into Master today; shot classifier in Carry Optics with my trusty M&P CORE 9L/RMR. Raw was 18.61 and I was down one for a total of 19.61 which barely qualifies as Master. Still, I've been stuck in EX for 4 years since I shot my first classifier (with G41 so it would count for SSP, ESP, and CDP at the time).

Not sure if they'll bump my SSP up to master but I kind of hope they don't. The CO division almost feels like cheating.
 
Nah... the really fast guys still beat me in idpa matches though I'm getting close. I won overall today and won every stage but it was a USSL steel match not an IDPA match despite the classifier. So I was shooting CO and they were shooting "EDC". When I beat them heads up in IDPA in the same division we'll talk. :)
 
1KPerDay said:
It was uncomfortable for me to shoot faster and rack up all the PD but hopefully my accuracy under speed stress will improve.
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I'm on a similar trajectory, only at a lower grade competition: an off-league match run by a local range. Just received scores for this month. I even tagged a hostage for extra penalty points, still placed higher than ever. The match director always gives us a pep talk about not rushing it and how misses drag you down more than being slow. Not true. Well, maybe among those in the top-5, but I found that with our scoring and at my level, rushing and shooting as soon as I can obtain the sight picture was the best. My training regimen was doing 5^5 (per Lucky Gunner video definition), and dry-fire the same 5 every day while my wife timed me with a kitchen timer.
 
zaitcev said:
I even tagged a hostage for extra penalty points, still placed higher than ever.
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I shoot in a local traveling league which is starting up for the season in a few weeks. A lot of the shooters compete in one way or another in various other competitions so just because it is a league doesn't change the fact that at the top it's fairly competitive.

Last season my personal experience was quite a bit more positive than previous seasons. I can say that without a doubt that it is easier on the nerves to be climbing up the low to mid range of the ladder than it is to make the last few steps to the top or to even maintain your place several rungs down. In the past my mantra has been "beat so-in-so" but I sense that "so-in-so" has his own mantra "beat back tom".

But still, it's all about the competition in my view and striving to improve. I try to convince myself that I shoot for me and forget what anyone else is doing. So far that has worked for me.
 
A really big Thank you to everyone who posted in this thread. I was pretty vague in my wording but appreciate all the info. Thanks again!!:)
 
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Placed third yesterday in a state level USSL steel match in Production division. I shot my P226. I won a stage or two (out of 12) and placed third or so in a few others, but crashed and burned on a couple and got 7th or so. Made STUPID mistakes. Stage round counts were relatively high and I'm not used to production rules and lots of reloading.

Video footage shows my draw is improving and time to first shot on target is improving. Still second tier shooter among my local group though. The guys who placed first and second are those who always win. I've beat one or the other in the occasional fluke "handgun" match but heads up with the same equipment and division I don't think I've beat them both outright. They were within a point of each other and I was about 25 points back, one point ahead of 4th place.

94 degrees and sunny all day. Wears you out. Had my daughter shooting with me. She started out in CO but when the front sight broke off my M&P CORE she switched to our backup PX4 and just shot "limited" but was scored as CO of corse. She had been relying on the sights to find the dot and it really messed her up when the front sight went missing.
 
Congratulations!

1KPerDay said:
I won a stage or two (out of 12) and placed third or so in a few others, but crashed and burned on a couple and got 7th or so. Made STUPID mistakes. Stage round counts were relatively high and I'm not used to production rules and lots of reloading.
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No, they are opportunities for learning.

Now, duplicate those stages at home and practice until you master all the areas you "crashed and burned" so as to not make those mistakes again.

1KPerDay said:
Had my daughter shooting with me. She started out in CO but when the front sight broke off my M&P CORE she switched to our backup PX4 and just shot "limited" but was scored as CO of corse. She had been relying on the sights to find the dot and it really messed her up when the front sight went missing.
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Batteries die, optics fail, and apparently iron sights can fail too and we need "contingency plan" for all of them. :eek:

So introduce her to point shooting that way if/when her front sight breaks, she has an option of point shooting. ;) At most USPSA shooting distance of 7-15 yards, point shooting can be very effective.

Never know, once proficient with point shooting, your daughter may see past the front sight and place double taps at will anywhere on the target to be "Zen master" of point shooting.

BTW, here's the basic steps to point shooting (Notice first step is to remove the front sight or tape up the front sight as it is not needed? ;) My offer to walk you through/instruct you over the phone on point shooting at the range still stands.) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-help-me-speed-up.824618/page-4#post-10902245
  • Remove or cover up the front sight
  • Place a blank target at 5-7 yards with a dot in the center (I use a bingo dauber)
  • While focusing on the dot, draw and fire
  • Make the necessary adjustment at the shoulders (vertical adjustment) and waist (horizontal adjustment) so you can draw and fire FAST consistently at/around the dot repeatedly
  • Once you mastered with one dot, place two dots side by side and repeat
  • Once you mastered with two dots, place four dots
  • Now place dots anywhere on the target and make holes (double taps) appear AT WILL. To me, "double tap" is shooting at 2 dots that are superimposed on top of each other, so you shoot at two separate targets as fast as you can. Double tap is shooting two separate events where POA are same. Imagine a fast popper knocking down and shooting the next popper right behind it. ;)
  • Replace front sight and see "past" the front sight and increase distance to target - Now you should be able to shoot accurately AND super fast and KNOW holes will appear where you intended. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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I was thinking of you repeatedly during the match... there were several stages where point shooting would have been much more effective. I need to find time to work on your method for sure. I will certainly call when I can find some time. Thanks for the great advice!
 
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