troy fairweather
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Anyone conceal carry any bp revolvers, things around my parts are stating to get crazy. people about started a riot today in shoprite. would a short barrel rem 1858 army would work.
Reason asking what if you could not carry a cartridge gun. My county makes it almost impossible to get a pistol permit.hmmm...
I mean... it was the best choice you could get back in 1858...
But I would carry a cartridge gun if I had it.
Reliability is a concern with BP, IMO.
Reason asking what if you could not carry a cartridge gun. My county makes it almost impossible to get a pistol permit.
New York.New York or Cali?
I mean......I guess it would work but black powder isn't a reliable....anything really. I would carry a knife and pepper spray at that point
Of the BP revolvers, the Remington is a fine choice, IMO.Reason asking what if you could not carry a cartridge gun. My county makes it almost impossible to get a pistol permit.
No nothing illegal more hypothetical. Even a rifle in the car is a pain, since it's supposed to be in a locked case and ammo in a different case.Of the BP revolvers, the Remington is a fine choice, IMO.
And, while I would never encourage you to do anything illegal (we don't do that here on THR), if things are actually getting that bad... Then I would argue that your county's laws have failed you.
During fire evacuation of my area a year ago, lots of folks "forgot" about the permit requirement.
Remember, I wouldn't encourage you to do anything illegal.
It's all over not just shoprite.Stay out of Shoprite. Problem solved.
...black powder isn't a reliable....anything really.
Ya I would agree, the only thing could think of is it the caps fell off.Hmm... I'd agree with you where stock revolvers are concerned. Guns which have been properly worked over, however, are actually pretty reliable. My latest custom '51 Navy has had about 500 rounds through it so far and has been utterly reliable.
Hmm... I'd agree with you where stock revolvers are concerned. Guns which have been properly worked over, however, are actually pretty reliable. My latest custom '51 Navy has had about 500 rounds through it so far and has been utterly reliable.
Sure but have you carried it for long times? How about concealed?
Powder gets wet, caps fall off......not great really
Your original post didn't sound like "just for fun". I wouldn't carry a gun in NY but that is moot as I won't go to NY. IL is bad enough, but I can and do carry here. Anything from a Kimber Micro to a ProCarry.Here a unloaded bp gun is a antique if loaded it's a pistol. Remember this it just for fun guys.
In Europe, where firearms regulation is insane and the mass influx of migrants in recent years has led to a deteriorating security situation in many locales, there are some hardy souls cc'ing cap and ball revolvers. I am on a forum where several such folks post. Leaving aside irrelevant European regulations, I will note that in NYS, a cap and ball revolver capable of being fired is a handgun, regulated the same as a centerfire revolver or pistol. That being the case, there are no circumstances in which I would rather be armed with a cap and ball revolver than a centerfire handgun.
If, for some unfathomable reason, one were to CC a CnB revolver, the longest possible barrel length is important given the relationship between BP and velocity. The shorty barrel 'belly gun' looks cool, but 140 grs / 600 fps at 7 yards ? The most important issue is cap retention and ignition. Tight fitting caps with those little plastic retainers of cut rubber or plastic tubing will be critical, as is a tight fitting ball. IMO, a top strap revolver - 1858 or R&S - would be better than an open top Colt.
If you are getting that dismal of a velocity then you are using the wrong powder.
I also wouldn’t opt for a ball, unless that’s all I had. I created a 195 grn WFN bullet that’s only 0.460” long that doesn’t take up powder capacity. With my NMA’s accurate charge of 30 grns 3F I’m in the .45 ACP realm of performance, but I use Olde Eynsford and Triple 7 powders. Even with a heavier projectile I’m well above 600 FPS.
But an old military video showing a ball shot from an 1860 Army with barely more than 600 FPS went through the ballistics gel and punched through the bone, which surprised me.