Your ammo cache in a safe or not
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wagonburner
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Tests done on 762 NATO rounds show they start going when the brass hits 300F. Modern propellant burns at 1,500F. The math on that one is pretty easy. And then consider modern propellant has an RE of 1.6 and an explosive velocity of around 30,00 FPS.
Ammo manufacturers and military depots store ammo in open spaces ... for good reason.
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George P
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I remember driving by the Army ammo storage at Tonopah, NV - HUGE underground facilities with raised berms................ammo kept at a constant humidity and temp..........
WestKentucky
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That means you need a select fire 10/22. Keep me posted for when I can come play.Suppose that would be a good way to store ammo, just haven't found one big enough for the pallets fit. Feel bad because I may have been responsible for the last nation wide shortage of .22's.
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Mine are in chests that can be pad locked.
Charlie98
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I would have to buy an old bank building for the vault if I were to lock up all my ammos. As it is, I have a small amount of ammos in the safe for the 'instant' weapons, a small ammo locker next to it with more, but the bulk of my ammo is in the reloading room on shelves in ammo cans or boxes.
If someone were to break into the house to steal my ammos, they better be Arnold for all those trips up and down the stairs with those heavy ammo cans...
If someone were to break into the house to steal my ammos, they better be Arnold for all those trips up and down the stairs with those heavy ammo cans...
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Riomouse911
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If the temps inside the safe are high enough to cook rounds off.., then the temps outside the safe would cook the rounds off looooong before the safe got hot inside...
Stay safe.
Riomouse911
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Yup, Hwy 95 between Hawthorne and Luning... drove that road tons of time as a kid shuttling between Las Vegas and Carson City.Ammo and Aliens both!
Stay safe.
Charlie98
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I've actually been in the storage facility at Hawthorne, picking up a load for the Navy headed to Oakland. It turned out to be just wooden blocks to stabilize the nose of the naval shells when they were in storage, but they treated it like I was hauling nuclear bombs. When I got to Oakland, the paperwork was wrong and they put me in lockdown for 8 hours... it was retarded, but that's the Navy.
I remember someone had a fire and it messed with the temper on all his guns. Like I said before my memory isn't very good since the chemo. May the light beer virus pass up you and yours.If the temps inside the safe are high enough to cook rounds off.., then the temps outside the safe would cook the rounds off looooong before the safe got hot inside...
Stay safe.
Deus Machina
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I currently don't, because I don't have room for a safe.
Want one. No space for it. Cases stay locked and hidden.
At the old apartment, there were numerous fire control systems (seriously, sprinklers right above the safe) so theft seemed more likely than a fire.
And I couldn't bolt it down, so I kept full ammo cans in the safe.
Neighbors complained about us when other neighbors were loud; there was no way you were going to cut into that safe without someone noticing. Good luck moving the thing without the crappy neighbors coming out to yell, and there was no way in heck you were getting it down the stair unnoticed.
For once, crappy neighbors on both sides worked in my favor.
Want one. No space for it. Cases stay locked and hidden.
At the old apartment, there were numerous fire control systems (seriously, sprinklers right above the safe) so theft seemed more likely than a fire.
And I couldn't bolt it down, so I kept full ammo cans in the safe.
Neighbors complained about us when other neighbors were loud; there was no way you were going to cut into that safe without someone noticing. Good luck moving the thing without the crappy neighbors coming out to yell, and there was no way in heck you were getting it down the stair unnoticed.
For once, crappy neighbors on both sides worked in my favor.
Riomouse911
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It sure can get hot, even in a “fire rated” safe. I could certainly see setting the wood or synthetic stocks on fire from convection heating of the air inside the safe if it’s baking inside a house fire long enough
. May you and yours also avoid the virus and stay safe
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Riomouse911
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Nothing surprises me! I think all the Navy ordinance loading is now done at Port Chicago in the estuary across from Suisun to keep it out of the bigger Bay Area cities there.
My FIL used to have a trucking firm and was contracted numerous times by the CIA and USAF to transport classified cargo from MIT to Cape Canaveral and also up to the Canadian Arctic to DEW sites. He never knew what was in the cargo boxes and he had armed Air Force Security Police escorts on these trips. The escorts had S&W .38 revolvers and original M-16’s on these trips (FIL served in USMC and was wounded in Vietnam after only a dozen-or-so days in Country, he knew his guns)
He said with the USAF along he never had to sweat the states’ weight and measures truck-scale thieves... err “officials” soliciting bribes from truckers along these routes
. Stay safe.
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As long as they aren’t druggies, bad neighbors are usually a blessing in disguise and an asset for security.
I had one neighbor that would sit in a lawn chair in his front yard and drink a 30 pack of natty EVERY single day. When I got off work, he’d usually be coherent and I’d walk over and drink a beer with him. He knew the goings on of the block and every neighbor, mailman, or car that drove by.
Riomouse911
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As long as they aren’t druggies, bad neighbors are usually a blessing in disguise and an asset for security.
Not in my case
Sadly, the people who moved in afterwards were neat, clean, silent...and were busted about 12 months later after turning the house into a marijuana grow house. They did over $80,000 damage to the place and it took the owner at least 6 months to repair it all!
The latest people bought the house about 6 years ago and they're fantastic...like all of the other neighbors on the block.
Stay safe.
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Ammo stored in G.I Cans by caliber. Located in basement cold storage room (5 by 15 feet) with concrete walls on all sides. Topped by concrete that forms the floor of rear walk out patio. Contemplated another safe for ammo but just don't have the space for it upstairs or in the garage. Besides, still wouldn't accommodate everything I have on hand after a winter of reloading.
mokin
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Safe, closet, under beds, separate storage facility with a lot of other stuff...
I like the idea of a job box locker. It would be very hard to move though.
I like the idea of a job box locker. It would be very hard to move though.
I keep mine pretty scattered. Ammo cans everywhere. Some locked away, some in plain sight, some even I can’t find. A smash and run thief won’t find any of it most likely. If he did the cans are pretty heavy so he couldn’t get much per trip. Handloads loose in a 50 cal can don’t hold much street value as of now.
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Suppose that would be a good way to store ammo, just haven't found one big enough for the pallets fit. Feel bad because I may have been responsible for the last nation wide shortage of .22's.
You monster.
Pat Riot
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I keep a lot of my ammo in a Stack-On Gun cabinet. It is not fireproof. I also have ammo in a bunch of ammo cans and plastic ammo boxes.
I had thought about getting a larger safe or gun cabinet to store all of my ammo in one place, but it kind of creeps me out to keep all of my ammo in one place.
I had thought about getting a larger safe or gun cabinet to store all of my ammo in one place, but it kind of creeps me out to keep all of my ammo in one place.
The law requires us to keep ammo just under lock but guns and gun powder in a certified safe.
This has decimated the burglar population somewhat as the safes has a tendency to explode when opened with an angle grinder.
Unfortunately almost no one can or want to have two safes so the guns are also destroyed in the explosion.
This has decimated the burglar population somewhat as the safes has a tendency to explode when opened with an angle grinder.
Unfortunately almost no one can or want to have two safes so the guns are also destroyed in the explosion.
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357smallbore
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I am gonna get that set up. Sure like it. Thanks for the pic and genius idea!
MedWheeler
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Mine is in a locked wooden cabinet originally built as a swing-out office desk/hutch. There's quite a bit also in my shooter's bags that wouldn't fit in the cabinet if I tried.
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