Your ammo cache in a safe or not

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How many fine folks keep their ammo cache in a quality safe? I mean locked up to where you only would have access to it. I have shall I say enough to be concerned if it were not locked away, it could be stolen and that would just suck. Let alone several thousands of dollars of down the drain.
I am going out with my stimulus check and buying me a Liberty Safe to coincide with the one I keep my weapons in.
 
My ammo is mostly in ammo cans. The ammo cans are mostly in this table. I need to make a new table though... the round table worked well for storing pistols and broken down shotguns during college, but it’s only about 1/2 the size I want it to be for ammo... and I am tempted to put a sliding drawer in the bottom of it for other stuff. It would be easy to copy the locking setup of a toolbox where the lid has to be open to let the drawer open or close. This one took me about an hour to slap together... Two 2x4, three 2x6, a piano hinge, and a round tabletop at Lowe’s was about $60 in 2006. Still going strong with its second coat of laquer, 5th place I have lived, and plenty jackassery that should have destroyed it. Functional does not have to be unattractive. I could have done better on the cuts, but my good buddies keystone and light were heavily involved when that table got built.
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I could be mistaken but I believe the temps inside a safe during a fire could cook the rounds off. If I am wrong pls let me know. I remember reading a post on here a gentleman had a fire. Guns in safe but the temps got high enough to mess with the hardness. Could be mistaken memory isn't very good anymore.
 
I am not to worried about someone carrying off heavy ammo if they break in. If they do, I'll deal with the insurance companies. Homeowners would count it as personal property. My separate gun policy covers $5k worth.
 
Not now, not ever; ammo kept in a safe becomes a BIG bomb in the event of a fire; even military-type metal cans can become the equal of a Boston Marathon pressure cooker

Won’t the ammo cook off individually? In a safe I’d think think it be better because the shrapnel wouldn’t exit the container.
 
Won’t the ammo cook off individually? In a safe I’d think think it be better because the shrapnel wouldn’t exit the container.
It SHOULD, IF there is room for the gasses to expand, in tight sealing matel ammo cans inside a tight sealing safe, you have the potential for a bomb
 
Won’t the ammo cook off individually? In a safe I’d think think it be better because the shrapnel wouldn’t exit the container.

Depending on how much ammo, the “container” will become the shrapnel.
 
It SHOULD, IF there is room for the gasses to expand, in tight sealing matel ammo cans inside a tight sealing safe, you have the potential for a bomb

Depending on how much ammo, the “container” will become the shrapnel.

So the ammo will cook off individually until the safe fills with gas and then the safe will blow?

I agree 100% if we were talking powder in plastic jugs in sealed ammo cans. But I can’t see how individual cases could cause a massive explosion even if the safe was full of loose 50 BMG.

OP, I am in the same boat as you. I don't have a lot compared to some people but I just run a chain through a few ammo cans that are not latched. I figure your average B+E crackhead won’t spend too long messing with it.

Ideally I would have a cage or similar type shelf system.
 
Me: Ammo cans mostly (some is still in their battlepacks, etc. so pretty sealed), on the proper shelves of the Metro shelf bolted to the wall, right side of the arms room. Not locked now, but when out of town, the whole "room" (it's small) is locked as a second layer for the weapons, and to keep anyone fussing with things like the ammo.

Generally:
Numerous sources have all indicated over the years that loaded small arms ammo is not a danger even stored in bulk, in a fire. Steel ammo cans are pretty good storage devices, for various reasons, and never explode. One discussion.

Large quantities of powder, even smokeless powder, should be kept in a suitable powder locker, ideally not in the middle of your house. Just heat should not cause them to go high order, but much higher risk as the propellant is contiguous so if it wanted to, it would all go up at once, which is: a bomb.
 
My ammo is kept in USGI ammo cans. It is not recommended to store ammo or propellant in a safe, refridge, freezer, or like sealed container. It should be vented at the least. Propellant is supposed to ne stored in 1 inch thick wooden containers per the manufacturer's info. Ammo cans are made to loose their seal before the pressure can build up in a fire.
 
So the ammo will cook off individually until the safe fills with gas and then the safe will blow?

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I didn’t say that.

Where do you come up with the notion the that the ammo will “cook off” one by one? You think out of a box or can of a thousand rounds, the rounds will cook off one by one and not ignite the others? All going off one by one, all taking their turn? I think not.

A couple of rounds go and they set of the rest. A couple of thousands rounds and you have a big bomb. Many safe manufacturers will tell you not to store ammo in their safes.

A couple of boxes of ammo in a safe won’t be a problem. Stacking a safe full of ammo is something totally different.
 
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I guess I don't have as much as some. I have a 3-drawer and cubby tool chest that my rifle cabinet sits on top of. Cleaning supplies go in the cubby, and all of my loaded ammo and hearing protection fits in the 3 drawers.
 
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