newfalguy101
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That would be a great question for your state rep!!!! buck460
And now in Florida, out illustrious Dem leaders instituted a 3 day wait even for long guns UNLESS you have the CWFL; then you can walk out the door. Watched a father and son get disappointed big time in Academy - they were there to buy the kid a .22 and when told they had to wait 3 days, the look on that poor kid's face was heartbreaking.Yes, the concept was if you were mad at your neighbor you couldn't go to the LGS and buy a gun, come home and whack them.And as originally written, if you have a gun or twelve, you could just buy another without the need to "cool off". Say you had several center fire handguns and wanted a .22 to plink with you could go buy it and take it home.
Then they changed it to a "waiting period". No explanation required.
Which is sad, considering FBI NICS is a free service, toll free call or web check. States that are Points Of Contact are charging the dealer (who in turn charges the prospective buyer a fee for a service that the FBI provides FOR FREE.
The day I was originally in there, it was 2 female managers I'd dealt with. They're required to have 2 salaried management members for all gun purchases. Neither were particularly knowledgeable but weren't entirely lost. A guy called me to tell me I was ok'd, but it was the same 2 females when I went in to pick them up. It took almost as long just to pick them up as originally trying to buy, but understandably they didn't wanna screw anything up. All 3 of us learned something through the course of this transaction. And I helped them sell a Mossberg 500 youth model to an old man shopping for his grandson. All's well that ends well.I imagine the guy at walmart is iffy.
That's what it is in FlaRegarding FFL honoring CCW , here in Wisconsin a carry permit is good for 5 years. The reasoning , as I understand it , is that an individual could have been hit with a restraining order or some other disqualifier in that interval , thus the requirement for a background check at time of purchase.
I thought that was a universal standard , but apparently I was wrong.
I stand corrected.
In Broward County it's 5 days. Business days. Because as we all know, waiting can't be done on a weekend or holiday.And now in Florida, out illustrious Dem leaders instituted a 3 day wait even for long guns UNLESS you have the CWFL; then you can walk out the door. Watched a father and son get disappointed big time in Academy - they were there to buy the kid a .22 and when told they had to wait 3 days, the look on that poor kid's face was heartbreaking.
As if they couldn't figure out in 5 minutes whether you're disqualified from buying a firearm, much less 5 days...In Broward County it's 5 days. Business days. Because as we all know, waiting can't be done on a weekend or holiday.
That's not the point; one can be qualified and just had a major blowout with a friend or spouse to the point that you want to kill them.As if they couldn't figure out in 5 minutes whether you're disqualified from buying a firearm, much less 5 days...
The background check has nothing to do with the waiting period. A CWP removes the need for a waiting period but the background check is still necessary. As said before, the purchaser could have done something to make them prohibited person since obtaining the CWP.As if they couldn't figure out in 5 minutes whether you're disqualified from buying a firearm, much less 5 days...
I do agree with this. Background checks don't bother me in the least. Waiting a few days doesn't seem to be really helpful unless it is in fact a "cooling off period".The background check has nothing to do with the waiting period. A CWP removes the need for a waiting period but the background check is still necessary. As said before, the purchaser could have done something to make them prohibited person since obtaining the CWP.
I don't really have an issue with the concept of a br check if no record is kept once the approval is rendered and if the information in the computer system was 100% accurate.
I have an issue with the waiting period because I don't see many ways in which someone waiting to get their gun is helpful to society at large but I do see where someone who is threatened can't quickly get a gun to protect their self being bad for the person needing sudden quick protection. If someone were so enraged as to want to do bodily harm to another person, I don't see the lack of a firearm preventing the violence. Kitchen knives, the ubiquitous blunt object or even hands and feet are quite lethal. I don't see an enraged person jumping in their car, driving to a LGS and buying a gun appearing calm enough not to set off bells in the LGS staff's mind, driving back to where they came from in order to then shoot the enraging person.
Absofreakinglutely NOT!.... I believe the FFL must complete the check in their records as either a proceed or deny,
In that case, the dealer just files away the 4473....after correctly recording the results of the NICS check.even if the would be purchaser, does not come back after that time for the gun and the gun is not transferred....
Absofreakinglutely NOT!
If NICS doesn't give a "Proceed" or "Denied" the dealer sure as heck better not falsify the status of that NICS check. Thats a felony.
If the Brady transfer date arrives and there has been no resolution the dealer records on Que 19.d "No response was provided within 3 business days"
If NICS called back and tells the dealer (or eNICS updates that status) "Proceed" or "Denied" the dealer checks off the correspond response and the date the NICS examiner called.
But that's not what you wrote:"I believe the FFL must complete the check in their records as either a proceed or deny,"......... Over half my delayed transactions NEVER get a status update, meaning I don't choose EITHER of those two options.Settle down....no where did I say anything about the dealer falsifying any records. Only that he must complete the paperwork regardless of whether or not the purchase is made. I did not say the paperwork was done immediately. I assumed everyone would realize that a reputable dealer would only put down the correct information and only after he received it. Same goes for any updating.
Over half my delayed transactions NEVER get a status update
Yup, had three delays this week, one changed to proceed last night.Tom, are you getting delayed statuses still? We have been getting "Decision Pending" for the last little bit from FDLE. They used to say Delayed like NICS, but now we get those pending statuses and I don't think a single one of those has ever gone to "Approved" (not proceed. More FDLE wording)
I wonder why they can't get a def. yes or no in a month.