22 short why not 22lr

Remington 510 semiautomatic shoots short and lr.
I’ve had several.22 rim fire revolvers, all would shoot shorts.
The reason for bolt action repeaters is feeding from a tubular or box magazine, though some you may feed one at a time into the chamber.
Edit- it’s a 550-1, not a 510.

Can't shoot shorts in a .22 LR revolver?

Since when?

tws3b2 said:

Ok, Another dumb question. I know why you can't shoot 22 shorts in a 22 long rifle semi auto.

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You sure can, but some, not all semi autos may not function as a semi auto.

And I know first hand you can't shoot 22 shorts in a 22 lr revolver.

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Huh? Any revolder chambered in .22LR easily functions just fine with shorts.

But why can't you shoot 22 shorts in a 22lr bolt action rifle? Same caliber short or long???

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You can......you might want to reconsider the advice you are getting.

tws3b2 said:

I have a 22 revolver that says 22lr. You can shoot 22 shorts in it but you get peppered with slivers of led.

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What is brand and model of the revolver?
People shoot shorts in .22 LR revolvers all the time without issues (other than more cleaning).

My old Winchester Model 190 is stamped right on the barrel that 22S, 22L, and 22LR. And yes it will function fine with short, long, and long rifle ammo. There is also no reason why 22 caliber CB caps, short, and long can NOT be shot in a revolver or bolt action. On magazine fed bolt actions, you might have to single feed each round since they might not feed from the magazine. As fa as 22 caliber revolvers, no different then say using 38 special in a 357 or using all the shorter 32 caliber (32 H&R Mag, 32 S&W long, or 32 S&W short) ammo in a 327 Magnum revolver.

i do im mine, and it my Ruger MK3

there is some concern that in the 24" barrels a CB can get stuck, though I have never heard of a short doing it, I imagine its possible. If I were using a CZ with the taper bore, in a long barrel I would not use them.

Gee I’m glad no one told me when I was 7 years old. 22 shorts were the only ones I could afford after cashing in my pop bottles and wire coat hangers. I put thousands through my Remington auto and bolt rifles. And shot them through Dad’s Ruger Single Six without issue.

When I got my first real job at 14 I could then afford 22 LR.

‘Even my 80’s vintage Rossi/Taurus pump rifle shoots shorts reliably. In fact I keep it full of CB 22 shorts since that rifle is what I use for neighborhood safaris.

Ive shot plenty of shorts through a long, long rifle chamberings.....
Also .22lr through .22 mag, out of curiosity and once, in a pinch, Rabbit hunting. Stilll worked...
Every case split, but it shot straight.

Some semi-auto rifles like the 10/22 can be problematic but there are solutions. Need a light weight alloy bolt assembly and a special "short" magazine to feed correctly. Volquartsen and some others do make conversions for the short.

It depends on the rifle. Some magazines wont function well with the shorter rounds.

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And I know first hand you can't shoot 22 shorts in a 22 lr revolver.

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I've been shooting 22 shorts, 22 longs, and 22 long rifles in 22 LR revolvers for over 50 years - easily. I'd sure appreciate some "first hand" knowledge as to why I can't do that.

tws3b2 said:

I have a 22 revolver that says 22lr. You can shoot 22 shorts in it but you get peppered with slivers of led.

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You should probably have a gunsmith that knows revolvers check the timing.

tws3b2 said:

Yes, I have a 22 Remington 550-1 that will shoot s,l,lr. But I also have a Marlin bolt that only says 22lr. I have a 22 revolver that says 22lr. You can shoot 22 shorts in it but you get peppered with slivers of led.

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Sounds like a poorly indexing revolver. Shorts work fine in all of mine! Even the vintage H&R 923.

Use shorts in my S&W model 17. No issue. They work great for trapped animals.
Shorts feed just fine in every Marlin 39 the family has ever had.

Have had 2 Remington bolts. A 581 and a 582. Both operated just fine with shorts. Accuracy with shorts was pretty dodgy with one of them. At 25 or 30 feet it was ok.

Have never tried feeding shorts from the magazine on a 77/22 that I can remember. However , from personal experiance, I can tell you they fire and eject ok when single loaded.

May have to try from the magazine tomorrow. I'm getting near the end of my 10 day corona virus vacation and have run out of things to do.

Had an old Winchester Model 67 single shot for 50 years and it shoots short, long, long rifle and CB caps. Kinda sorry I sold it.

Have to add my comment that is a revolver should handle .22 short and long rifle. Semi autos....it depends. Like earlier posters I have a Remington 550-1 that takes all three. I have lever actions that will also take all three.

Obey the markings on the barrel, or instructions if you have them.

Something I read a long time ago indicated that the chambers would get dirty or eroded ahead of the short case mouth with constant use of shorts. I never verified this for myself, but the "dirty" part may have come from days of yore when .22s were loaded with black powder or Lesmoke powder. (Half and half black and smokeless.) The dirt was supposed to inhibit feeding of longer cases and limited case mouth expansion on firing them ...who knows?

The erosion part I can't see at the pressure levels of .22 ammo unless the chambers were made out of weakium steel or hardium pot metal.

Your informant may have picked up the same tenuous information, and passed it on to you as fact, who knows?

'Twarn't me, though.

My Remington Nylon bolt rifle with detachable box magazine bought in 1965 handles all three .22 styles from the magazine with utter reliability. I clean it every twenty or thirty years, though.

Terry, 230RN

Shorts in a Ruger Single Six is my preferred quiet-ish mole solution since I can't discharge a firearm "within village limits"

I shoot shorts out of a Savage MKII FV to dispatch starlings that crap in/on my kid's pool.

You can, lots of firearms can shoot shorts, longs and long rifle.

The problem with lots of semiautos is power or feeding and ejection but they do exist. Less common these days but so are short and long rounds.

This is a pump action 572 rifle that works with all of them.



The semiauto version of it, Remington 552 also works with S, L & LR. They are far from the only ones that do.

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Yes, I have a 22 Remington 550-1 that will shoot s,l,lr. But I also have a Marlin bolt that only says 22lr. I have a 22 revolver that says 22lr. You can shoot 22 shorts in it but you get peppered with slivers of led.

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All good advise. As far as the Marlin (BOLT Action). The early ones shot all 3. But they had a different mag and a small flat spring steel piece above the chamber as a guide. Sometime in n the 90s they switched to mags that are used in the LR only semi autos. They also dropped the guide. But you can still use shorts and longs in them.In short. You can use .22 Short and Long in any .22 LR chambered gun. It might not feed or function well but it,s not dangerous. As far as shorts causing chamber problems in a LR chamber they can. Early guns could get a pitting ring from corrosive priming before WWII. But even with modern non corrosive rounds you can get a powder/carbon ring that needs to get scrubbed out for a LR to fit. But I think that would be a lot of short shooting first.

My marlin 60 wouldn't cycle shorts. Weren't as accurate either. But could hit a squirrel with them. Just might not win any matchs.

Most tube fed guns will feed shorts. May need to feed them by cycling the action manually in the case of a non-550 or 552 semi auto.