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. I probably shoot the 308 the best
Then that's the one you should use.
. I probably shoot the 308 the best
Just remember to keep your scope on the lowest power when your hunting up close. My first see season I didn't know that missed a chance at a deer because I had it set in 9x.Thanks for the feedback, everybody! I’m going to spend some time playing around with all 3 to see which one I’m most comfortable with. If I can keep shot placement correct, then I don’t think I’ll have any issues.
Really? That's odd as I find that the 150 grain .30-30 is rated at 2390 fps, while the 7.62x39mm with a 154 grain soft point hunting bullet is at 2109 fps.I would use the 30-30 for the following reason. The bullets are heavy and are shot at slower velocities than the other rifles mentioned.
Interesting, as I've found with a great many deer that I've shot that two holes = 2X the chance of collapsing both lungs in an immediate manner, and lots more blood trail, though when the lungs collapse the trail is very short.I have shot deer with the x 39 and not got an exit wound, which means a poor blood trail.
All the calibers will cleanly harvest the animal. ..., So it will come down to the one that can take the animal & do the least amount of damage to the meat, that will mean you have to hit the heart/lung area of the deer. So the most accurate rifle is what you need to use. You will have to be able to hit a five round group at 100 yds & keep the group size to the size of a baseball.
Just remember to keep your scope on the lowest power when your hunting up close. My first see season I didn't know that missed a chance at a deer because I had it set in 9x.
My choices take into the amount of muzzle blast if all cartridges can get the job done.
Field of view was about 1 foot. LoL@Bfh_auto Was that because you were searching with the scope and missed it with the narrow FOV...or did the higher power cause you to miss??
About 2 months until white tail deer season here in NH. This will be my first season hunting, and I was interested in opinions on what caliber I should use. I’m conscious of overkill - and I don’t want to cause unnecessary damage.
@FL-NC— That’s a 35-yd group (I made an additional adjustment after the first rounds to bring it from the upper right down to the center). Unfortunately that’s the best range I can manage the way my property is laid out!
I’ve never had issues with either the RAR or my AK. I think the concerns about MILSUP ammo is overrated...I use it all the time and have no problems finding the target. This target is Tula .308 Win from my Ruger GuNsite Rifle...I’m satisfied!
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Military rounds being full metal jacket are not suitable for hunting. Only soft point expanding bullets are legal here and are the only ethical choice.
Only soft point expanding bullets are legal here and are the only ethical choice.
You are correct. I should have been more succinct, my comment was made on my own personal reloads with heavier bullets and velocities not exceeding 1900 fps. At 50 yards it really does not matter.Really? That's odd as I find that the 150 grain .30-30 is rated at 2390 fps, while the 7.62x39mm with a 154 grain soft point hunting bullet is at 2109 fps
Hollow points are not legal here and may not be big game bullets. Your state may vary. Lead bullets are in effect soft points because the soft point is usually exposed lead for instance shotgun slugs are legal.. I hope that helps you understand that soft points are the only ethical choice.Except for all lead bullets like a round nosed gas check, or a patched round ball...,
Or Hollow Point rifle bullets.
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Hollow points are not legal here and may not be big game bullets.
Hollow points are not legal here and may not be big game bullets. Your state may vary. Lead bullets are in effect soft points because the soft point is usually exposed lead for instance shotgun slugs are legal.. I hope that helps you understand that soft points are the only ethical choice.
I'll point out that by that wording, poly tips are also out, and no lead free options would work. I'd propose that the word ethical may not be accurate, legal sure, but I'll dispute that a hpbt gameking or poly tipped hps (btips), bonded, and monometal offerings (of appropriate weight to provide proper penetration and expansion) are far from unethical.You've got to be bloody joking... What raving lunatic in the game and fish office came up with that wee bit 'a madness? Whoever it was never saw what a 150 grain hollow point out of an '06 does to a deer's front shoulders. Shot a lot of critters with hollow point bullets in my time. "Inadequate" is the last word I'd use to describe their performance.
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I hope that helps you understand that soft points are the only ethical choice
Hollow points are not legal here and may not be big game bullets. Your state may vary. Lead bullets are in effect soft points because the soft point is usually exposed lead for instance shotgun slugs are legal.. I hope that helps you understand that soft points are the only ethical choice.
I wonder where that leaves monolithic bullets like Barnes or GMX? They expand and are mandatory in the socialist states.Hollow points are not legal here and may not be big game bullets. Your state may vary. Lead bullets are in effect soft points because the soft point is usually exposed lead for instance shotgun slugs are legal.. I hope that helps you understand that soft points are the only ethical choice.
I wonder where that leaves monolithic bullets like Barnes or GMX? They expand and are mandatory in the socialist states.
About 2 months until white tail deer season here in NH. This will be my first season hunting, and I was interested in opinions on what caliber I should use. I have three choices:
308 Win
7.62x39
30-30
Cast lead bullets are not and have never been "soft points". Cast bullets are hard and usually have a wide meplat. And will cut a full caliber hole through a critter. Doesn't matter if bones are in the way. It will just blast through them.Hollow points are not legal here and may not be big game bullets. Your state may vary. Lead bullets are in effect soft points because the soft point is usually exposed lead for instance shotgun slugs are legal.. I hope that helps you understand that soft points are the only ethical choice.