A Serious Reminder--Think before Posting (etc.)

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The link below was posted here some years ago. It reminds us that what we post is not private, that it is permanent, and that it may have consequences.

Anyone who is not constantly aware of this should come up with some trick for alerting himself before ever pressing "send" or "create thread" or "reply".

Here's the latest: there is a case in Georgia in which three men have been charged with various forms of felony murder. They are in jail.

The other day, one of them--the one who would likely have had a chance for the most favorable outcome--was involved in continuations of bail bond hearings.

According to news reports, which are of course questionable, authorities have transcripts of a large volume of electronic data entries that appear to go to state of mind, and that may, if the reports are true, seriously damage his legal defense.

These were from text messages on his cell phone.

How many people realize that such messages are discoverable?

This warning also applies to Facebook, twiiter, Tik Tok, Snapchat, email, THR, Google searches, and every other electronic database in existence.

Let's be careful out there!

[URL="https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/read-before-posting-legal-considerations-of-posting-on-the-internet.604948/"]Read before Posting: Legal Considerations of Posting on the Internet[/URL]
 
I agree with @Kleanbore but to go further, there are already cases supposedly on the books that a persons Alexa/Siri/various forms of electronic AI are recording data that have been used against a person. Surveillance technology is getting more affordable and more discreet, everybodys phone is waiting to hear “hey Siri”. It’s not just written word anymore, it’s everything. Watch what is said, and what is written. Not conspiracy theory but fact, we are all being watched and listened to. Don’t believe me, watch your ads on your phone change after you stop and look at certain items at the store. It’s amazing that Facebook ads know I looked at carpet cleaner, but when I did look at them at Walmart, I got ads for carpet cleaner within the hour.
 
I used to write such software for a well known government agency. It was used for forensic discovery and trial preparation. I (try to) never write anything down that may be incriminating.

You can think of it as a google search on steroids where there is not so much a search term but a whole plethora of them and the secondary, tertiary, etc relationships are followed.

Metadata is included ... so actions are correlated by time and place, etc

In this context ... saying it on the phone or any digital medium is the same as writing it down.
 
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I (try to) never write anything down that may be incriminating.


I would add to this that you have no idea what might be incriminating! So it's not even so much trying to "get away with something" as never knowing just what innocent comment you might make that could be misconstrued or taken out of context. As SharpDog says there's plenty of stuff that shouldn't be in a text, email or post.
 
All electronic communication should be end-to-end encrypted.Why that's not the standard is beyond me.

If you didn't know already, your Telecom is REQUIRED to keep records of all your phone calls, they have access to all your texts and your ISP keeps records of all your web traffic. And they roll right over when the .gov comes asking.
 
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I've mentioned this before but I had a security gig Alan Investment firm that I had never heard of before I was assigned there.

I never once referred to the place by name outside of my home. On social media I called the place Nakatomi Plaza. Within on week of my working there I started seeing commercials for the place on TV.

Also (and this is only the most blatant example I can think of) the first day I was there I was assigned to train with another employee, by the end of the shift Facebeast was suggesting him as someone I might know. Based solely on my proximity to him through out the day.

I used to have a security assignment where I had to go into the property management for that building office every night to check my post orders and to see if there were any updates that I needed to be aware of. Within a week people who worked in that office during the day were popping up on my potential friends list.

There was also a former member here who popped up on my friends list after we started interacting.

My point being they know where you're at and they know who you're with.


And a final thing that really doesn't have to do with electronic surveillance but one afternoon I was doing Access Control at Nakatomi Plaza. An employee came through my station and she looked familiar to me. When she scanned her electronic ID and her picture and name popped up on my computer I realized the photograph was also her profile picture on Facebook and I recognized her because we had argued about something online.

You have to be careful about how you present yourself to people online because you can run into them in the real world and not even know it. I'm sure she had no idea who I was.
 
What I find astonishing is how two FBI love birds texted all kinds of sketchy BS about ousting a president. And wieners and hunters had lap tops from hell. It should have been obvious to these people it would come back to haunt them. I’m also surprised they didn’t have their equivalent of Kleanbore to warn them about posting incriminating stuff.
 
As an aside (OP's advice seems mainly geared toward private citizens), I can tell you that a lot of law enforcement careers have gone down the toilet due to indiscreet use of social media. Many of you, I'm sure, follow national news and are aware of the handful of high-profile cases, but folks inside the greater law enforcement community could tell you of hundreds of other cases in probably every state. IF you work in law enforcement and you get in trouble, everything you've ever put out on Facebook or Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, whatever, will come back to bite you in the butt... Most especially if you're critical of your leadership or gloating about your latest use of force ...

(P.S. - I sold every one of my firearms in private sales prior to December 4, 2014 prior to I-594 going into effect; I love and respect all of my bosses -- they are the smartest people I've ever known --, and I voted for Biden/Harris)
 
That's not always simple.

Most things in life are seldom simple.

But, if you go into it with that philosophy you are far less likely to get into trouble because of something you communicated electronically.

The fact of the matter is that none of us have any idea who may be paying to what we do. Doing it electronically just makes it easier for them.
 
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The link below was posted here some years ago. It reminds us that what we post is not private, that it is permanent, and that it may have consequences.

According to news reports, which are of course questionable, authorities have transcripts of a large volume of electronic data entries that appear to go to state of mind, and that may, if the reports are true, seriously damage his legal defense.

These were from text messages on his cell phone.

Read before Posting: Legal Considerations of Posting on the Internet

Although an overall good informational post. Why are the news reports "are of course questionable"? Do we have another deep state communist conspiracy theory going?
 
Is there more to that?

I’m as guilty of being naive as any. On the other hand I’ve broken no laws committed no offenses against persons and uttered no threats.
 
There are calls to vilify and punish people for their political affiliation. Since most everybody knows big tech is collecting data and certain government agencies have been used illegally to target citizens for whatever reason, are people now claiming a safe political affiliation so they won’t be targeted? Oh by the way I voted for Biden because of equality and climate goodness for all!;):cool::thumbup:
 
I (try to) never write anything down that may be incriminating.
In the case to which I refer in the OP, there has been no insinuation that the text messages were incriminating.

The suspect took video of an event in which a person who was being detained by two others was shot died from a gunshot wound.

That is a very rare accusation--maybe the first of its kind.

The content and tone of earlier text messages are being used to paint a picture of the way the suspect has thought about certain people. That could go to state of mind, and it could make it easier to disprove a claim of legal justification by the suspect.

One would not think a comment such as "this section of town has been getting worse, and if this continues we will have to move", or "here's another example of why we don't go there any more" to be incriminating. However, if one were involved in a use of force incident in which the evidence were ambiguous, several previous comments of that nature could be very damaging indeed.

There are also any number of hypothetical civil tort situations in which such comments could be troublesome.
 
Sometimes folks like to parade around like they are about the facts but then at times there can be no interpretation of highly subjective mat2erial that fits a specific narrative. Quite frankly, I don't believe anything I dont have first hand experience with. It annoys my wife to high heck.
 
Sometimes folks like to parade around like they are about the facts but then at times there can be no interpretation of highly subjective mat2erial that fits a specific narrative. Quite frankly, I don't believe anything I dont have first hand experience with. It annoys my wife to high heck.
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Everyone posting in this thread have been marked for reeducation. You will receive a text shortly telling you when and where to report. That is all.




This. If you are on any gun forums you are already on a list no matter what you post.

Posting patriotic thoughts will just get you to where we're all headed a little faster.
 
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