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Rubone
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Really old news, they have been out of the scope biz for a while now and that policy has been in effect for at least a year if not longer. Well discussed on pretty much every gun forum. However some dealers are still selling and touting a "lifetime guarantee".Hopefully yours survived the fall.
BigBL87
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It's annoying but it was bound to happen at some point. Once they stopped making scopes they only had a limited supply for warranty replacement. Hopefully the binos they offer are at least comparable in price/value to the scopes they replace.
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Yup. Old news. You were actually the one to create a thread here in Nov of 2019 when Nikon had stopped producing riflescopes...
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/nikon-to-stop-selling-scopes.859048/
Nikon stopped producing riflescopes over a year ago. They had ceased production operations before Thanksgiving of 2019 and even at that time were only selling inventory stock (I looked back at my own post - I posted on another forum on 11/19/19 after hearing for a few weeks they were ceasing, so I called for myself, and Nikon confirmed on that day). For many models, they were out of inventory by February and March of 2020 - which left them reverting to the offer of binos as replacement for riflescopes with warrantable issues.
You can’t expect a company to continue to produce a product indefinitely just to service warranty replacements when they have otherwise closed the product lines. They don’t make them, so they don’t have inventory to replace them, don’t have equipment, experienced staff, or parts to repair them. So they offer equivalent value of a current product... which unfortunately ain’t the same thing...
Here is a quote of my post in a thread here from Nov 19, 2019:
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/nikon-to-stop-selling-scopes.859048/
Nikon stopped producing riflescopes over a year ago. They had ceased production operations before Thanksgiving of 2019 and even at that time were only selling inventory stock (I looked back at my own post - I posted on another forum on 11/19/19 after hearing for a few weeks they were ceasing, so I called for myself, and Nikon confirmed on that day). For many models, they were out of inventory by February and March of 2020 - which left them reverting to the offer of binos as replacement for riflescopes with warrantable issues.
You can’t expect a company to continue to produce a product indefinitely just to service warranty replacements when they have otherwise closed the product lines. They don’t make them, so they don’t have inventory to replace them, don’t have equipment, experienced staff, or parts to repair them. So they offer equivalent value of a current product... which unfortunately ain’t the same thing...
Here is a quote of my post in a thread here from Nov 19, 2019:
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There isn’t such a thing. There aren’t “Nikon authorized repair centers” for their riflescope line, and weren’t. There aren’t many shops available which work on scopes, because so many scopes do come with lifetime warranties, there’s just not a market for it. There are a handful of shops around the country, but none have ever had the approval or blessing of manufacturers to do these repairs for consumers, so as far as manufacturers are concerned, they don’t exist.
This is what happens when a company or product line doesn’t outlive the “lifetime warranty” of its products.
Frankly, there’s a lot of spooky stuff going on right now with Nikon. The camera/photography world is buzzing as Nikon has also ceased production of their products in Japan, allegedly NOT caused by Coronavirus. Rumor has it, the boat is sinking, so unfortunately, a lot of folks jumping into their new mirrorless lineup might end up with the same “left high and dry” problem if something doesn’t change. At least there ARE repair shops which will work on their cameras and lenses, and a reasonable market volume of spare parts exists for their legacy lines...
I do have a hard time believing Nikon would hold hostage a returned item which they could not replace, but it’s quite possible they have a policy which states no return of non-functioning items, or quite possible the item had already been destroyed/discarded since there are no workflow paths in which they’d actually do more than open the box - if it’s a scope, they aren’t repairing or replacing it, they just trash it and ask the owner what replacement product they would like.
For what it’s worth, this HAS opened a new temporary market of guys receiving products they don’t want as warranty replacements and then reselling, NIB, at great deals. That is, if you want to own any Nikon product at all - which common sense should largely preclude.
All of the Japanese photo companies, Nikon, Canon and in particular Olympus have been bleeding cash like stuck pigs for years now and they are in serious financial shape. Nikon did not quit producing scopes due to politics but to retrench and try to concentrate cash into what they think are key areas to eke out a profit at some future point. Olympus may sink first. The only "camera" company actually making a profit in the area of consumer photography is Sony.
dranrab
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What did you expect Nikon to do? They no longer make scopes and the parts for scopes. They aren't going to tool up again to appease Axis II.
I had a Nikon scope. The elevation and windage knobs have markings to show how many clicks you are making, right?. But, I noticed that the whole thing turned; spun like a top. It was merely cosmetic, not designed to be used. So I ditched the POS and never bought another Nikon.
I wonder how they got it assembled lol.
What model, some of the 2000+ had turrets that were push in pull out, and if not engaged would free spin.
It was a cheap Nikon Pro Staff 3-9X. The numbers under the adjustment screws (the ones that turn with a coin) was a plastic cut out that was purely cosmetic. Think of it as a plastic washer under the screw adjustment, a thin cheap plastic washer.
troy fairweather
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I'm glad I went in the pre monarch loonwulf sent me before all this, they cleaned and repurged the scope.
oh yeah, i remember those. They were meant to be adjusted to your "zero" .....they didn't track well enough to use that anyway lol.
That was a fantastic scope for me, tho the glass isn't as good as the newer ones were. It was a gift in.....99? maybe cant remember.
troy fairweather
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The glass looks good to my eyes for the age, has a good eye box as well. I swear it's more clear after the cleaning. I do wonder when they stopped making them.
Im not really sure what they updated when the went to the Monarchs, but that scopes basic formfactor and construction was carried over to the Prostaff series, just made in the Philippines rather than Japan. Side by side the original Prostaff and the Premonarch were almost identical, but the glass on the Prastaff was a little nicer.
I wonder if they replaced that front lense on your scope? it was pretty badly scratched up from years of t-shirt cleanings and lava dust.
troy fairweather
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I didn't check the lens, I'll do that tomorrow. It's sits nice on my A-bolt which I think is fitting.
sounds like a perfect pairing
troy fairweather
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It's my jap gun lol, just needs some Japanese rings. Tho 7wsm is not very Japanese, well it's a mm so that helps some lol.
Vintage Tasco rings and mounts I BELIEVE were actually made in japan.
Sav .250
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Talk about beating a dead horse................
Varminterror
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Lots of brands use that type of indicator plate for their lower end scopes - it was not Nikon’s invention, nor exclusive to them. Don’t touch the disk, just turn the screw with the coin, and it works. These aren’t made to be dialed regularly, the indicator disks are really only meant to allow you to track how far you’ve turned as you’re zeroing the rifle, then be capped and left alone.
CraigC
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Was there this much of an uproar when Pentax did the same thing?
I imagine that all the camera manufacturers are hurting these days. As good as cell phone cameras are, I haven't used my SLR in a while now.
I imagine that all the camera manufacturers are hurting these days. As good as cell phone cameras are, I haven't used my SLR in a while now.
In theory that would work,, but mine turned along with the adjustment. It spun like a top. Didn't like the gun or the scope, so I ditched both.
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