Hokkmike
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Not a lot of point in getting a .357 rifle unless you are Cowboy shooter. 44 Mag is the top choice.
You've obviously never shot something with a 357 carbine. It's closer to factory ammo in a 35 Remington than it is a 357 handgun.Not a lot of point in getting a .357 rifle unless you are Cowboy shooter. 44 Mag is the top choice.
It would be use primarily on small deer and hogs. The hogs are getting kinda big though...If the OP said what he's going to hunt I missed it. I know that the 44 magnum, even with plain ole 240 grain JHP, will sail right through a deer.
Sorry if I'm not super active on the thread, I'm just reading and thinking.
Just not sure what questions to ask with none of the velocities really breaking that 2200 barrier for hydro-static shock the bigger the bullet the better.
so 454 would seem to jump to the top, hot 45colt and go for when 454 is not needed or not available but would the increased distance the bullet would need to jump to get to the rifling affect accuracy and with the rossi unavailable I might be better off forgetting about the 454 and getting a strong rifle in 45colt.
357mag would be cheapest and easiest to get and its still pretty darn effective, and with 44mag factory ammo (normally) being expensive, there is lots
of cheap-ish (again normally) reloading supplies. And again still pretty darn effective.
I haven't heard that. Even if true, it makes a better .45 than existing .45's. Faster twist, feeds longer bullets and has tighter chambers.You might also add the fact that Rossi 454s were discontinued because they can stretch the frame after a moderate round count.
I wanted one. But quit looking after finding that piece of information.
The 92 is stronger than the 94. In fact the 92 is the strongest applicable action extant. Only the 1886 and perhaps the Winchester 1895 are stronger but there would be no point.Totally agree. The raw power in a small package is what drew me to the idea.
I would think a model 94 reworked to run it would be pretty nice. It would be close to 45-70 for most purposes with the added round count for killing herds of roving elephants or something.
Really it has no purpose.
I've seen this claimed on the internet quite a bit but never had a problem with my .44's. In fact, my Marlin "S" model shoots well enough that people would call me a liar.If you handload cast bullets, I'd skip the 44mag carbine and go 357, 45 or 454.
The 44mag "rifle" spec uses a slightly different bore than the handguns. As far as I'm aware it's the only cartridge to do so. With jacketed loads it dosen't make much of a difference, but with cast, it can be pretty significant.
Thanks for adding that. I can’t believe I forgot about that! IIRC, the bullets for .44 handgun are 0.429 and the bullets for rifle are 0.431. This is the bigger accuracy challenge than the twist rate difference I mentioned earlier.If you handload cast bullets, I'd skip the 44mag carbine and go 357, 45 or 454.
The 44mag "rifle" spec uses a slightly different bore than the handguns. As far as I'm aware it's the only cartridge to do so.
I've not seen a lot of people carrying a 20 in barrel rifle in the grocery stores around here.Everyone is going to tell you to get a .44 Magnum or .454 Casull because of the constant threat of being attacked by a grizzly bear en-route from your suburban home to the grocery store.
If I were told I could only have one rifle and one revolver, I'd without hesitation choose my '92 Rossi in .357 and one of my .357 revolvers. In my opinion and experience, there simply isn't anything more versatile than a .357 and a reloading press, especially if you are a handloader. My hunting load for the rifle is a 180 gr. cast bullet at 1800 fps, but it can be loaded down as light as I want.
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I just checked again. SAAMI bore diameter spec for .44 rem mag pistol is 0.417 and for rifle it is 0.424. Take a look at bullets sold for “.44”, you will find bullets at 0.429, 0.431, and 0.432. If you think a 0.007” difference on bore diameter makes absolutely no difference I can’t help you.If you can shoot, you can shoot. If you can't you can't. 357 or 44 in a rifle isn't going to cure or hurt either one. Saying it will is just a bad joke people who aren't happy with what they bought say to convince their self.
If you can shoot, you can shoot. If you can't you can't. 357 or 44 in a rifle isn't going to cure or hurt either one. Saying it will is just a bad joke people who aren't happy with what they bought say to convince their self.