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jmr40 said:
Two things.

#1. The Ruger can become anything you want it to be. As a DIY project you can drop in a better trigger. stock, and barrel for under $300 and outshoot most bolt actions. You can do it one step at a time to determine how far you want to go. Of course, I'd shoot it 1st, it might be good enough as is.

#2. If you want an accurate bolt gun I strongly recommend Tikka. I sold my CZ after buying the T1x.

The Tikka at 250 yards. T1x MTR | Tikka

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I have 3 10/22's. Two have aftermarket barrels. This is the one with the factory barrel. I did upgrade to the BX trigger for about $90.

Target ammo at 50 yards, 5 shots.

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You got a great factory barrel!!! My B.I.L. bought a slightly-used stainless 10-22 that had a bad barrel. I did my magic to it, but it still didn't shoot, so we bought a cheap bull, replacement barrel at Cabelas and suddenly, it shot as well as the best custom 10-22s, including mine!
 
1942bull said:
With no hesitation I can say I would make the trade. Here’s why. A bolt action allows maximum pressure to be exerted on the bullet because no gas is bled off to recycle loading. Again from my perspective, I see a rifle for target shooting or hunting as best performing when it can maximize the ballistic performance of the specific ammo/caliber. With 22LR that becomes more important due to the potential ballistic performance of the round. You do not need semi auto to shoot targets. Unless you miss a lot you do not need a semi for hunting small game. If you are going to hunt larger animals that a 22 will be challenged to take down with a single shot, do the humane thing and get a larger caliber rifle.

Except in battle, rifle ballistic performance is everything. At boot camp in 1960 I trained with an M1. It’s got to shoot it’s predecessor the Springfield 1903 a couple years later. At 500 yards with iron sights I was more accurate with the 1903 bolt action. I asked the instructor why. He said that’s the big difference between acsmi auto and a bolt action. The M1 had a maximum effective range of too yards. The 1903 had an effective range of 1,000 yards. The round were not far enough off in ballistic performance to account for the difference. Trade for the bolt action.
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10-22 is not gas operated.
 
1942bull said:
Eegads. I actually did not know that. Thanks.
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I can't think of a semi-auto rimfire that is. They're blowback actions.

Back to the original question: Is a Mossberg bolt action + $150 > stock 10-22 and four aftermarket magazines?

The magazines are probably Butler Creek and may or may not be reliable. They cost about $25 or so. So there's $100 worth of stuff. Now the question is a Mossberg bolt action + $50 > stock 10-22.

Not at my house unless it's one of the nicer 802 models.
 
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1942bull said:
The M1 had a maximum effective range of too yards
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too yards? Do you mean 100 yards instead? No matter because an M-1s effective range is a whole lot further than 100 yards! And the Springfield is a wonderful gun, but in the hands of an average soldier has an effective range of a whole lot LESS than 1000 yards.
 
tark said:
too yards? Do you mean 100 yards instead? No matter because an M-1s effective range is a whole lot further than 100 yards! And the Springfield is a wonderful gun, but in the hands of an average soldier has an effective range of a whole lot LESS than 1000 yards.
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Oops thanks. I’ll fix it. M1 Had max effective of 500 yds.. Bad typing and editing on my part.
 
old fart said:
Thanks everyone, I have decided to keep my Ruger and save for a bolt action. With what I have in the gun and mags and now with the cost even more than what I paid just a month or so ago. With ya'lls help I will keep the 10/22 and save for a bolt gun. Thanks again.
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.308 Norma said:
Just a suggestion: my wife really likes her Ruger "American Rimfire" bolt gun, and it takes the same magazines as my 10-22.;)
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I'm going to echo @.308 Norma here. I've got 2 RARs and one of the reasons I went with them was because they take 10/22 mags. I like them a lot. Heck, I'm not usually one to buy duplicate guns, but I'd pick up a third RAR if I found it at the right price.
 
I've had 4 rar all shot very good, I like t her plastic stock but was disappointed in the wood one I handled. It was fine but they pretty much just copied the plastic stock, the grip areas work good on the plastic but in wood it's just weird.
 
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All three have threaded barrels. The target rifle (bottom) came from the factory that way, but I had to have the other two done by my gunsmith. The top one is the 10/22 that I got about 40 years ago. Quite possibly my all-time favorite gun. The middle one was intended to be The Squirrel Sniper, but then I shot a buddy's Target model, and I just had to have one. So the middle one has had its scope removed and gone back to a basic, iron-sights plinker. The bottom one, obviously, it my target rifle.
 
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I respectfully disagree with the premise that loss of velocity due to gas bleed off is materially relevant with (most) semi-auto .22 LR. There is no gas bleed off due to blowback and the bullet has left the muzzle by the time the bolt unlocks. There are numerous YouTube videos comparing the velocity of manually locked blowback actions and freely operating blowback actions and there is no velocity difference outside the margin of error. There is no measurable advantage to owning the Mossberg while aftermarket support alone is a reason to keep the Ruger.

1942bull said:
With no hesitation I can say I would make the trade. Here’s why. A bolt action allows maximum pressure to be exerted on the bullet because no gas is bled off to recycle loading. Again from my perspective, I see a rifle for target shooting or hunting as best performing when it can maximize the ballistic performance of the specific ammo/caliber. With 22LR that becomes more important due to the potential ballistic performance of the round. You do not need semi auto to shoot targets. Unless you miss a lot you do not need a semi for hunting small game. If you are going to hunt larger animals that a 22 will be challenged to take down with a single shot, do the humane thing and get a larger caliber rifle.

Except in battle, rifle ballistic performance is everything. At boot camp in 1960 I trained with an M1. It’s got to shoot it’s predecessor the Springfield 1903 a couple years later. At 500 yards with iron sights I was more accurate with the 1903 bolt action. I asked the instructor why. He said that’s the big difference between acsmi auto and a bolt action. The M1 had a maximum effective range of 500 yards. The 1903 had an effective range of 1,000 yards. The round were not far enough off in ballistic performance to account for the difference. Trade for the bolt action.
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Boattale said:
Yeah I mentioned that earlier too. So far as I know, all semi-auto rimfires are blowback action.
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There are delayed blowback rimfires, but all of the .22lr and smaller that I'm aware of are straight blowback.

Spats McGee said:
For reference, here's a family photo:
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All three have threaded barrels. The target rifle (bottom) came from the factory that way, but I had to have the other two done by my gunsmith. The top one is the 10/22 that I got about 40 years ago. Quite possibly my all-time favorite gun. The middle one was intended to be The Squirrel Sniper, but then I shot a buddy's Target model, and I just had to have one. So the middle one has had its scope removed and gone back to a basic, iron-sights plinker. The bottom one, obviously, it my target rifle.
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You need a RPR now.......had mine out yesterday, freaking tack driver in .17.....

Id grab you a picture but its upside down pukin copper out right now, we shoot about 200-300rnds since the last time I cleaned it......
Its funny my 28 Noslers in a similar position.....
 
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