Another consideration is will you survive the environment of where the carjacking is occurring without the (relative) protection of your vehicle itself? Avoid allowing yourself to get boxed-in and use care at traffic signals or stop signs. Consider red lights and stop signs as "yield signs" if the conditions warrant such an adjustment.
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They make manual transmission autos?
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Gorgeous car! Use it in good health.
I have trained my girls to always be aware of thier surroundings when armed. I told them as they leave a store or the college and are walking to thier car to always size up the people around them, looking for suspicious movements/gestures. Its was also a great idea to have training in profiling. not that there are any known courses for this. I had the luxery of our neighbor being an ex IMPD detective and he was more than willing to teach them a bit about profiling. it basically teaches you what to look for in a person with intent to harm. such as boligerent yelling, the way they walk, the way they are holding thier hands etc...
I learned a lot, and i recomend getting some education on this for anyone that carrys.
I learned a lot, and i recomend getting some education on this for anyone that carrys.
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Here's a news report about carjackings in Philadelphia, discussing in part apparently conflicting opinions between police and the judicial system. Says potential victims have started fighting back, including 3 recent ones who used firearms for that purpose. Does include a nice clip of the police chief saying she's fine with licensed gun owners.
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The latest carjacker strategy in Chicago is to target the car, then to assault with 3-4 attackers in the assault car. 2-3 exit with guns drawn and surround the target. My CCL class stressed to never draw against a gun. Your only option is to exit the car, drop your fob and phone, and survive.
BTY if you have a manual transmission, or anything that will enrage your attackers they will shoot you, just because.
BTY if you have a manual transmission, or anything that will enrage your attackers they will shoot you, just because.
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Many cars now have that ability. The 2011 Hyundai Elantra I own will open the driver's door with the first turn of the key in the door. Return the key to the "zero" position and turn it again and all doors are unlocked. The fob works the same way - 1 push, driver's door, second push, all doors.
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Exactly how my 2006 Volvo works.
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We had a case where a guy was carjacked while driving along Old Military Road, which runs about 100 yards from the Mexican border. The carjacker stepped out with a shotgun and the driver stopped, probably because his infant daughter was strapped into a car seat right beside him in his truck.
The carjacker blew him away as soon as the driver stepped out of the truck then threw the baby into the high bushes some distance away from the site of the carjacking, child seat and all.
The child died before she was discovered.
Sometimes your hand gets forced because you are trying to protect someone that you would rather die than put into danger... .
This particularly bothers me because I walked within 20 feet of the child without noticing her.
The carjacker blew him away as soon as the driver stepped out of the truck then threw the baby into the high bushes some distance away from the site of the carjacking, child seat and all.
The child died before she was discovered.
Sometimes your hand gets forced because you are trying to protect someone that you would rather die than put into danger... .
This particularly bothers me because I walked within 20 feet of the child without noticing her.
@theotherwaldo, that is horrific. Especially disconcerting since you were there.
The new conventional wisdom would be for that driver to mash the accelerator.
The new conventional wisdom would be for that driver to mash the accelerator.
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What a horrible experience.
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I'll just follow up here a little, if armed car jackers have got the drop on you then you have one or two options. One give up the car and hope they don't shoot you anyway, or use the car as your defensive weapon, which a majority of folks don't think about.
Either way if you've allowed the jackers to get the drop on you you've already failed. At that point its just a matter of survival.
Avoidance is optimal but preparedness is generally adequate.
Either way if you've allowed the jackers to get the drop on you you've already failed. At that point its just a matter of survival.
Avoidance is optimal but preparedness is generally adequate.
Momentum is also our friend. If I see a green traffic signal far ahead with absolutely no chance of reaching it during that green light cycle, I begin to slow. That way my vehicle wheels can continue to roll, which gives greater options. By the time I get there, it is generally green again.
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The other month at a match we were talking between iterations and I mentioned I do not go into Portland Oregon (my home town) unless armed anymore. One of the other guys agreed. Then he said he'd been into Portland the other week as he and his wife had business to attend. As he was waiting at a light a thug walked up to his window, displayed a knife, and said "Give it up." So this guy pulls out his pistol and pointed it at the thug and said "Sure, where do you want it?" Then he said "That guy sure could run fast."
If I would not feel safe somewhere unarmed, I will not go there at all.
My sense would be to not have any dialogue with a carjacker at my window.
A concern I would have is that the first carjacker is trying to draw my attention.
Somewhat like drive-in movie theater scene in the movie HEAT with the deception.
A concern I would have is that the first carjacker is trying to draw my attention.
Somewhat like drive-in movie theater scene in the movie HEAT with the deception.
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Probably a daily occurrence 100 miles south of here in Houston but no carjackings ever around here. Not naive enough to believe it couldn’t happen though.
Bought this online this morning. Will be delivered next week. 2012 Mustang 5.0 GT with 6 speed manual and 415 horsepower. Figure I can out run almost any trouble that comes my way. Won’t out run a bullet though.
Bought this online this morning. Will be delivered next week. 2012 Mustang 5.0 GT with 6 speed manual and 415 horsepower. Figure I can out run almost any trouble that comes my way. Won’t out run a bullet though.
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It would be my luck that they now see that as a need to kidnap me…
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The downside to going slow like that, is that it gives an opening for some impatient jerk to cause a road rage incident by cutting you off. Nowadays you have to assume that the other driver is armed. And tempers everywhere are running short.
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Those two mustangs up there present much juicier targets than my Corolla.
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