The Glockodile
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https://hackaday.com/2016/10/13/watch-the-diesel-effect-in-ballistic-gelatin/
I wish I had the time and place to really play with such awesome pewlatin.
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Huh? Getting shot is dangerous or the possibility of a dieseling effect occurring in a shooting victim is dangerous? I’m confused.The article said this is because the clear jell is oil based, where the ones with a color are water based. A mindless cut and paste.
Water-based blocks made with natural gelatin can be easily made at home, but end up with a yellow-brown color and have a limited shelf life due to evaporation. Clear blocks exist that are oil-based and don’t dry out like the water-based ones. It’s one of these that is in the embedded animation below.
I never knew they are oil based, learn something everyday. With any kind of oil there is the ability to "burn" it. That is what happens here.
We are told that this stuff is basically a "meat" target without the bones. Ok, humans do have oils in them, and anyone that ever cooked over a grill knows fats burn real well. I wonder if this is a possibility in humans....or animals for that matter....personally I don't think so. Humans have been killing all kinds of things with guns for a very long time, I would think if it was even something that happens once in a blue moon I would like to think I would have caught wind of it by now. If you could make this happen with a "normal" bullet I doubt we would have seen the germans and soviets shooting at eachother with rifle rounds that explode. Using those round had the desired results that are better over whatever you could do with any "normal" bullet. Fun side note the germans only used it on communists, where as the soviets also used it against the japanese after the war was already over.....but hay north korea looked nice right.
Personally I see this as VERY DANGEROUS. The wrong group of people get wind of this and who knows where it would go.
Huh? Getting shot is dangerous or the possibility of a dieseling effect occurring in a shooting victim is dangerous? I’m confused.
Stay safe.
it is known to happen just about anytime a cavity rapidly collapses and/or compression causes enough heat to ignite something flammable. Oxygen will diesel, oil vapors (diesel fuel) will, etc.( And thats your semi-truck engine right there. No spark, all compression.)I never have seen this talked about, new to me. Dieseling effect on getting shot I am shocked I have not. Not much difference in the "meat" between man and beast, I would think I would have known about it, read about it....perhaps it is something that I just missed.
Can you shoot me a few articles on this, I am pretty interested.
Well, sort of. It's a viscoelastic fluid meat analog, but chemically it's more like bone broth jello.We are told that this stuff is basically a "meat" target . . . If you could make this happen with a "normal" bullet. . .
That is also caused by lubricant oil affected by the heat of the compression of a spring-air pellet gun.The same effect (dieseling) can be replicated in a pellet gun, if you get the mix right. If you put just a dab of Vaseline in the cup of a standard .177 pellet, the compression created when firing it will ignite the Vaseline (petroleum jelly). You can get enough extra velocity in a rifle that the pellet will be supersonic. I've yet to come upon a formula for getting the amount of Vaseline just right for consistent performance, but when it happens, it's pretty surprising and cool. Sounds almost like a .22, and the piece of tin sheet I shoot at gets penetrated, instead of just dented.
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it is known to happen just about anytime a cavity rapidly collapses and/or compression causes enough heat to ignite something flammable. Oxygen will diesel, oil vapors (diesel fuel) will, etc.( And thats your semi-truck engine right there. No spark, all compression.)
Even IF, and that is a HUGE if, it were to occur in a body a) no one could see it because we cant see in slow-mo and people aren’t clear like this gel block, and b) that bit of heat created for literally an instant would add practically zero additional trauma to a gunshot wound and would be completely undetectable anyway. Especially if it is caused by a bullet with the impact fast and hard enough to cause the effect within a body in the first place.
You are waaaaay overthinking this well known natural phenomenon being a threat to gun ownership.
Stay safe.
Well, sort of. It's a viscoelastic fluid meat analog, but chemically it's more like bone broth jello.
And more to the point, the vapor is flammable, a combination of sufficient fuel concentration, oxidizer, and a low concentration of inflammable mass (read: water) to absorb thermal energy and buffer temperature increase.
The same bullet is not going to do the same thing in meat, because meat isn't bone broth jello. . . meat is water filled muscle-fiber-reinforced matrix with soft rocks (bones) and a bit of oleaginous goo mixed in. The concentration of water vapor would be enormous.
Yes. It is a non issue.I should have read this before my long reply, so this is something that is unique to the gel used.
With that in hand, boy am I the only one that can see this going a very wrong way in the press and non shooting public.
...am I the only one that can see this going a very wrong way in the press and non shooting public.
I've heard from a reliable source it can happen with 9mm, sometimes lungs get blown right out of a body."Double Action Bullets!"
Pokes holes in you, and causes your vital organs to explode!!!
I've heard from a reliable source it can happen with 9mm, sometimes lungs get blown right out of a body.
Hyperbole R' Us.Porcelain guns, silcone - coated bullets, ice bullets...
So '80s.