Beretta 80X Cheetah

Some YouTube reviewers and articles are claiming Beretta is pushing this as a “woman’s gun” for the concealed carry female market.

It seems decently well suited for that purpose, or for those men with small hands or who are physically unable to properly rack a slide.
 
JCooperfan1911 said:
.380 is an impotent cartridge not capable of serious self defense usages.

9mm is the bare minimum acceptable, and this is a huge gun for a pipsqueak cartridge and could easily be chambered in 9 Para.

I don’t get the appeal of this tarted up oversized mouse gun at all.
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Full sized 380 pistols are just a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. After a few hundred rounds of .40 or .45 I am pretty much shot out for the day. But I can shoot my Browning 1911-380 all day long without feeling tired. For self defense I agree there are better rounds but for fun a full frame 380 is pretty hard to beat. Some times I do carry my LCP but I usually prefer my DB9 which is minimally bigger but carries considerably more punch.

I love my Beretta 92 INOX! There is a Beretta 84 INOX on the local gun forum for $1200. I do have a hard time justifying so much for a blowback gun though. The locked breach on my 1911-380 makes it feel a lot like shooting a .22lr. I have a hard time envisioning any blow back 380 being as smooth.
 
MikeInOr said:
Full sized 380 pistols are just a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. After a few hundred rounds of .40 or .45 I am pretty much shot out for the day. But I can shoot my Browning 1911-380 all day long without feeling tired. For self defense I agree there are better rounds but for fun a full frame 380 is pretty hard to beat. Some times I do carry my LCP but I usually prefer my DB9 which is minimally bigger but carries considerably more punch.

I love my Beretta 92 INOX! There is a Beretta 84 INOX on the local gun forum for $1200. I do have a hard time justifying so much for a blowback gun though. The locked breach on my 1911-380 makes it feel a lot like shooting a .22lr. I have a hard time envisioning any blow back 380 being as smooth.
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.380 ammo costs more than 9mm-way too much to shoot it "just for fun." That's what rimfire, or heck, even 9mm, is for.
 
zaitcev said:
Could you elaborate a little bit? I see this sentiment expressed in regards the 80X, but I could never understand just what is going on.
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It looks horrible, completely kills the lines and aesthetics of what would have otherwise been a good looking handgun. 99.9% of consumers won't use it and it's clearly Beretta trying to market to the tacticool audience. Gun makers seem to think their customer base wants ultra high speed call of duty operator gear and have been releasing pistols with that demographic in mind.
 
Yukon_Cola said:
It looks horrible, completely kills the lines and aesthetics of what would have otherwise been a good looking handgun. 99.9% of consumers won't use it and it's clearly Beretta trying to market to the tacticool audience. Gun makers seem to think their customer base wants ultra high speed call of duty operator gear and have been releasing pistols with that demographic in mind.
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Aesthetics versus possible need.

I could see my wife using something this size for a home defense pistol, where a weapon light would be useful. A good light can light up a room well enough to ID someone while the gun is not pointed at the "target". (I sure with my CZ PCR had a light mount for home use, but I bought it before I really thought about that.)

Same goes for the red dot mount. Us middle aged folks typically have a hard time with pistol sights. A red dot takes practice to learn using quickly, but it sure can beat using fuzzy iron sights in low light. Or if defense isn't the purpose, a red dot can simply make a pistol an easy to use range gun.

BTW, the barrel on the 80X isn't threaded, but you know it's coming.
 
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Yukon_Cola said:
It looks horrible, completely kills the lines and aesthetics of what would have otherwise been a good looking handgun.
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What are you saying LOL. The new trigger guard is a massive improvement versus the pointlessly thickened one of the "classic" 84FS. It's a great compromise between the true classic lines that Beretta abandoned 20 years ago and the requirements of the higher grip.

As for the lovers of fat butt, just install wrap-around grips. Personally, I much prefer the Vertec-like grip, even on a smaller gun.
 
Wife wants one as a purse gun. I want one because the manual of arms is my favorite. I like decocked/safety on/double action first trigger pull. YMMV.
 
Mars5l said:
According to the TFBTv video it doesn't. Something they revised the magazines to work better with hollow points
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Interesting comment on the hollow points.

My 84 feeds everything I’ve ever fed to it including 38 cal 110 grain hollow points.

But, I have not tried any of the hollow points developed in the last 15-20 years.
 
cfullgraf said:
Interesting comment on the hollow points.

My 84 feeds everything I’ve ever fed to it including 38 cal 110 grain hollow points.

But, I have not tried any of the hollow points developed in the last 15-20 years.
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Mine eats jhp just fine.

I carry the Underwood +p 68 gr LeHigh load. (The bullet that looks like a "Phillips" screwdriver head) Fired 40 rds to be sure they worked ok. No problems. Chronograph average over 1400 fps from my gun. Shot to the same point fmj typically does.

Unless they made some kind of extreme change, like raising or lowering where the barrel and slide fit, there was no reason to alter mag design except to sell magazines.
 
js8588 said:
Wife wants one as a purse gun. I want one because the manual of arms is my favorite. I like decocked/safety on/double action first trigger pull. YMMV.
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She might, but test the weight first.

Put a 28 oz object in her purse and ask her to live with it for a day.
 
zaitcev said:
What are you saying LOL. The new trigger guard is a massive improvement versus the pointlessly thickened one of the "classic" 84FS. It's a great compromise between the true classic lines that Beretta abandoned 20 years ago and the requirements of the higher grip.

As for the lovers of fat butt, just install wrap-around grips. Personally, I much prefer the Vertec-like grip, even on a smaller gun.
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If you'll remember correctly, we were talking about the rail LOL.
 
I also have had zero issues with HP ammo in any of my 80 series guns, along with the two Browning BDA 380's I've had. The only thing that messes up any of them is plain old bad ammo. I roll mine in a little tray I have before loading the mags. Any wobblers get stuck into a box to shoot one at a time, or just trashed.
 
D.B. Cooper said:
As much as I like the price point, friends don't let friends own Turkish made guns.
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My only experience with a Turkish guns is a Tisas 1911 I bought a few weeks ago. Someone sold the Turks some really good CNC equipment and taught them how to use it because that thing is perfect. The machining puts some of the domestic 1911’s I’ve had to shame.
 
Taurus made a nice copy of the Model 84 for a while (PT58?). Their Beretta clones were pretty good back in the day.
 
someguy2800 said:
My only experience with a Turkish guns is a Tisas 1911 I bought a few weeks ago. Someone sold the Turks some really good CNC equipment and taught them how to use it because that thing is perfect. The machining puts some of the domestic 1911’s I’ve had to shame.
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Ok. Ok. So, I just saw a YT video of it at this year's shot show. It looks pretty good. In fact, most of the guns the TISAS booth guy was showing in the video, well, the shotguns at least, looked like well made guns. But looks can be deceiving. They were all knock-offs, of course, but I just wonder how well they'll be working and in what condition they will be in when my as yet unborn grand son and great grand son are shooting them. The again, do I have a right to ask that question at $350?
 
D.B. Cooper said:
Ok. Ok. So, I just saw a YT video of it at this year's shot show. It looks pretty good. In fact, most of the guns the TISAS booth guy was showing in the video, well, the shotguns at least, looked like well made guns. But looks can be deceiving. They were all knock-offs, of course, but I just wonder how well they'll be working and in what condition they will be in when my as yet unborn grand son and great grand son are shooting them. The again, do I have a right to ask that question at $350?
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Honestly I have no idea. I pretty much share your opinion when it comes to all the turkish shotguns on the market. They look good from 10 feet away but when you pick them up they just feel cheap in the hands. In the case of their 1911's they seam to have upgraded all their machining equipment because the one I bought looks 10 time better than some of the older tisas 1911's that I remember looking at from years go. If a guy is in the market for a new m80 and they don't like the looks or price of the beretta I think it would be worth the effort to find one of the tisas guns to at least look it over.
 
D.B. Cooper said:
Ok. Ok. So, I just saw a YT video of it at this year's shot show. It looks pretty good. In fact, most of the guns the TISAS booth guy was showing in the video, well, the shotguns at least, looked like well made guns. But looks can be deceiving. They were all knock-offs, of course, but I just wonder how well they'll be working and in what condition they will be in when my as yet unborn grand son and great grand son are shooting them. The again, do I have a right to ask that question at $350?
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Depends on how many rounds make it through the gun. I've worn out my Beretta Bobcat, so I can imagine someone could wear out a Beretta Cheetah even if it took 4 times as many fired cartridges to do so. Then there is my Beretta 92FS and Bersa both with some barrel peening from the slide at the breech. Not sure how long those guns will make it either.
 
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