Especially if it's chambered in S&W J-frame, Ruger Single Six and and other similar size revolvers.If you handload, it is an extremely fun catridge to shoot.
Especially if it's chambered in S&W J-frame, Ruger Single Six and and other similar size revolvers.If you handload, it is an extremely fun catridge to shoot.
I might add that Buffalo Bore has two options for the 32 Long as well .
You'll get no arguments from my corner.This round from a long considered obsolete caliber is no joke. It is providing .380 acp levels of energy with penetration significantly in excess of FBI standards if Buffalo Bore is to be taken at their own word.
.32 S&W LONG - (32 COLT NEW POLICE) Pistol & Handgun Ammunition
.32 S&W LONG - (32 COLT NEW POLICE) Field Proven pistol and handgun ammo. Maximum firepower bullets. Best ammunition for pistols and handguns for sale. Buffalo Bore. Strictly big bore. Strictly Business.www.buffalobore.com
I have a lady friend that carries those as her self defense rounds. Seeing her armed really hit home for me how much of an equalizer a pistol can be. It is amazing that one tool can take her from being harmless to just about anyone due to her small size and a variety of ailments to dangerous to the world's largest most physically powerful man.
In all this discussion about the perfect pocket caliber let's not lose sight of that fact.
Or even an 8 shot 22 lr!Since Kimber can make a 6-shot revolver in .38/.357 (K6S and K6XS) that's the size of a J-frame, maybe they can make a 7-shot .32 H&R.
Here is a video from some Taurus people talking about their new .327 3" defender toro model. They specifically mention that Buffalo bore .32 s&w long round, and how highly they regard it. In addition they casually mention that the .32 h&r magnum is the sweet spot for the .32 family.You'll get no arguments from my corner.
I would recommend NOT using this particular BB round in such a lightweight gun though. It recoils a lot and just isn't fun to shoot. For a seasoned shooter it's still snappy and close to 327 power.
I'm not convinced that the BB heavy 32mag +p is a sweet spot for an airweight j frame. Other 32 mags sure, but not what I pictured above.Here is a video from some Taurus people talking about their new .327 3" defender toro model. They specifically mention that Buffalo bore .32 s&w long round, and how highly they regard it. In addition they casually mention that the .32 h&r magnum is the sweet spot for the .32 family.
Gunday Brunch 135: The Taurus 327 Defender TORO
In this episode, Caleb takes us through an overview of one of Taurus' new SHOT Show launches, the 327 Defender TOROwww.youtube.com
In my head I was thinking of Buffalo Bore .32 s&w long loads, and regular .32 h&r loads like Hornady Critical Defense, or Double Tap.I'm not convinced that the BB heavy 32mag +p is a sweet spot for an airweight j frame. Other 32 mags sure, but not what I pictured above.
Yes, you are right, the standard H&R 32 mag rounds are great in an airweight j frame.In my head I was thinking of Buffalo Bore .32 s&w long loads, and regular .32 h&r loads like Hornady Critical Defense, or Double Tap.
I agree Buffalo Bore .32 mag +p rounds don't sound like the sweet spot for a sub 20oz pocket revolver.
It seems like Aim is not often listed on the ammo search sites.Ammoseek is the place to check
What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.
I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense.
How much are you paying a round to shoot it for fun vs a 22lr or 38spc?
What's so special about 32hr? I've just watched a few YouTube ballistics and barrier penetration test, and I looked up Lucky Gunner's ammo testing. I wasn't impressed at all and I don't understand why anyone would choose a 32hr over a 38 special especially being that ammo availability and selection with 38 special is more plentiful. It doesn't seem like it makes sense for self-defense or plinking purposes over 38 special.
I don't understand the hype over the new S&W uc 32h&r offering. Is this a case of people just wanting it because it's new or the grass is greener on the other side? Heck, on AmmoSeek.com, the cheapest ammo I see is over $1 per round! It doesn't make sense.
I actually have one highly specific reason to consider the new .32 H&R Mag J-frame. I've been wanting a gun for distance running, and a J-frame or LCR has some advantages over the other mouse gun options. I would carry it in a fanny pack hydration belt with no reloads (so the sixth round would be big over .38 Special). A revolver grip is easier to draw than a small semiauto, in my opinion. And I think .32 H&R, if a load is optimized, compares favorably to .380 ACP, plus the new Lipsey's J-frame has sights that are far superior to any of the semiauto micro guns. And it would be a gun that was almost never shot, so ammo costs would not be highly relevant.
No, I had to go back and look, but I was sure they weren't American Eagle. They're Hornaday Critical Defense, 80 grain flex tip. They were about the only thing I saw at all that was "in stock". I didn't know much about the 32's at the time, so they got the call. They were also fairly reasonably priced at "only" about a buck a round. Not much more than the Fiocchi S&W Long rounds I mentioned earlier were actually. I noticed my LGS has the 32 H&R in stock today, but they're about $2.00 a round (also Hornady Critical Defense). I have no doubt I'll shoot a lot more 32 S&W L in either gun. I see it for a lot less online now that I've looked for it. I'm also reasonably sure I'll end up reloading for all of it.Did you order the American Eagle 100 grain load?
Because that will get the attention of everyone within 50 feet on either side of you at the range.
I guess I've gotten caught up in the 32 "fad" recently. Not too long ago, you couldn't have given me one (except maybe a K-32 to go with my K-22 and K-38), but my wife talked me into buying a little "I" frame 32 S&W long a couple of months ago. Smith and Wesson third model hand ejector to be specific, built in 1920 or 22. It had been reblued, and had grips from a much later period, but she thought it was "cute" and I gotta admit that it is. It looks like someone washed a Model 10 in hot water and shrank it.
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I carried it home, cleaned it, found a box of Fiocchi 100 grain wadcutters and took it to the range the next time I went. The tiny sights made it hard to shoot, but it was fun, so the next time I went by the LGS, I grabbed the only two boxes of 32 L ammo they had. They too were Fiocchi but 97 grain FMJ "Heritage" rounds. When I got them home I noted on the box they were rated at 949 FPS. NINE HUNDRED AND FOURTY NINE fps? from a 32? That seemed pretty hot to me. I don't think I've ever seen reloads listed at that kind of velocity. An email to Fiocchi gave me a pressure figure of 14-14.5 K PSI for pressure. SAMMI max is 15 K. I wasn't 100% sure I wanted to shoot this ammo in a little I frame revolver that was 100 years old. Probably be "Ok" but I didn't want to beat up the little gun.
So I did what any of us would have done. I bought another gun. I mean I already had ammo. Something in 327 Magnum should handle it.
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So I found a Taurus 327 (327 magnum) for a little over 300 bucks, and ordered it. Got it a couple of days ago and took it to the range with a box of the Fiocchi 100 grain wadcutters, and a box of the 97 grain FMJ. Shot the wadcutters first and it was like shooting a 22. Almost no recoil. The other stuff...it was another matter. The recoil wasn't unplesant at all, don't get me wrong, but I could tell it wasn't the same stuff I'd been shooting. And it was pretty accurate too, at least on the 1/3 scale IDPA target I was using at 7 yards. The sights are still just a hog trough and front ramp, but they're better than the dimple and dime the I frame has.
Those 100 rounds of 32 Long are the only ammo I've fired in it so far. I've got some 327 Magnum on order, and I noticed my LGS has gotten some 32 H&R in. I'll give the magnums a try this weekend and see if they make enough noise to get me tossed out of the range. Heck, they shoot AR and AK "pistols" so I should be OK.
So now I guess I'm heading down the 32 rabbit hole. I've been looking for dies, and bullets for a 32 and might....MIGHT mind you, end up ordering the stuff to reload it. I am of course saving the brass. I doubt it will take the place of 38 wadcutters at the range, but I could see it as a carry gun. Fits my Don Hume JIT holster, HKS makes speedloaders for it. Extra round and all that. The Taurus is about twice the weight of the 642, but it's a steel frame vs an aluminum one. Slightly better trigger on the 642, but not a lot. The Taurus' trigger surprised me. The stock grips are certainly adequate for the 32 Long ammo. I'll have to see when I get the magnum stuff in.
Oh, they already do (I'm 71 myself). Regular 38's in regular K-N frame guns don't of course, but those P+ 158's in an airweight J-frame do. The 642 with wadcutters isn't too bad. We'll have to see how the 327's do, but old Uncle Arthur goes nuts when hard kicking stuff comes out.Nice! Like me, now you're ready for the day when 38's hurt your hands too much.
Hoping to be able to shoot 32's until they put me in the ground.