Machine154
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I have struggled getting Rifleman status at 2 Appleseed events with my SR-556, so I am thinking to get a 10/22. I need sling mounts and good iron sights. I like a wood gun. Do I get a sporter and change sights? Other options?
Alright, let me check my shopping list with you guys and hone in on some details:
-Marlin 795 Check
-Extra Mags at least 4 total (5 is better) - check
-Tech Sights (they only list the TSM200 for Marlin?) TSM200 is correct - check
-1 1/4 sling swivels (uncle mikes got a bad MidwayUSA review for changing to more rounded design and China made, possible interference with the USGI sling, Talon apparently has a bad shape for the USGI, any other proven suggestions?)
Uncle Mike's is perfectly fine (*I* happen to prefer Talon, and the "work around" where it snags some USGI slings is easy) - Check
I agree with craig, I dont know what usagi is talking about. I get under 1 MOA with my 10/22 at 40 yards quite often. It has tech sights and no fancy trigger/bedding mods. Maybe the shooter is to blame.The Marlins are good guns for the money but that is it. What you see is what you get. The Ruger is a better rifle, higher quality and a better design, which is why it costs more. It is far easier to clean, maintain and modifiy. Marlins tend to be slightly more accurate out of the box but the difference is nowhere near as extreme as has been stated. IMHO, the Marlins look and feel like a hundred dollar rifle. I know, a Marlin 60 was my first rifle and I've had it for 26yrs. The Ruger looks and feels like a $200-$300 rifle but the beauty is that it can be made to be anything you want it to be.
One must bear in mind that Usagi is always very critical of the Appleseed program and general and the Ruger 10/22 in particular. His experience with the Ruger is not typical and apparently the same for Marlins. Sub-MOA at 25yds from a hundred dollar rifle? Please. Get ready for comments that you have to spend several hundred dollars on the Ruger to make it equal the Marlin.
You still think a braided cord sling is "just as good" as a V-TAC???You pick fights over here too, huh, Craig?
The course of fire for the AQT we use was actually used with the M1903 and M1917, as well as the M1 and M-14.
He seems to like to follow me around and do that... accusing me of "bashing" - when really he simply fails to read my posts for whatever reason. Aye caramba! But, go look at the posts on rfc and see for yourself.You pick fights over here too, huh, Craig?
Not from where I'm sitting.Based on the comments of several responses, it would seem several posters are confusing 1 MOA with 1 inch groups.
This is the crux of the argument. You are asserting that every 10/22 shoots like your dud.With the given that the Ruger is a 3-4 MOA gun, and the Marlin is, at worst, a 1 MOA gun, it is to the shooter's advantage to use the Marlin, as shot inaccuracy cannot be attributed as much to the rifle.
So you didn't see other posters who looked to mistake MOA for inches? Let me quote the phrase:Not from where I'm sitting.
Craig, Read my post - I said my Ruger holds 3-4 MOA at 25 yards. That is the same as saying .75" - 1" at 25 yards. This quote states 3-4 inches. It is possible that the person posting this did not read my post, but it looks to be a case of mistake between MOA and inches.I have owned half a dozen Rugers, all would shoot well under an inch at 25 yards bone stock. If Usagi 's wouldn't do better than 3-4 inches at that range he had a bad rifle.
I stated the "need" was: Tech-Sights, hammer, extractor. I also suggest, for convenience, an extended mag release and auto bolt-release. MANY others in this thread and other threads suggest the same. By adding these parts, the functionality of the 10/22 becomes the same as a Marlin 795.I also have to firmly disagree that the 10/22 "needs" the equipment you say it does.
Nobody said Marlins came with a 2 lb trigger. But a simple snip of the hammer spring (1 coil, only) and a weakening of the return spring will take the Marlin to about 5 lbs.Marlins are not exactly coming out of the box with a 2lb trigger. It 'may' be marginally better but a $40 VQ hammer gets it to roughly 2.5lbs. Much better than the factory Marlin trigger.
Last I checked, Ruger factory triggers were around 10 lbs. My BIL's was, my SIL's was, A fellow shooter at my last AS had the same. All of these rifles were purchased in the last year. If one gets lucky and gets a 5 lb trigger, then great! But look at reviews online - it just ain't happening.My 26yr old example is almost 5lbs. Factory 10/22's will be around that.
Have you been to Wal Mart lately? Seriously, I have never seen a factory 10/22 with studs. I've seen used ones at gun shows with studs, that's about it.Nor does it 'need' swivel studs. Most 10/22's come with at least one swivel stud, many come with both.
Again, I simply suggested (as many others do) that an extended release is helpful. Of course, the 795 already has one, and that was the crux of my point.Nor does it "need" premium ammo and an extended magazine release. Hell, LTR has a match chambered Clark barrel and I still shoot bulk with it. So no, they are not picky about ammo.
3 points:Following you around? You might take note that I have been a member here for five years to your one. That I've been on RFC for nine years to your one and a half. Which also, apparent in your early posts, reflects how long you've been shooting. <personal attacking drivel removed as point is already been made.>