Am I being a Jerk?

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SO I have a Gen 4 Glock 19 that I'm thinking about getting rid of. I also have a "buddy" that I've known since high school. He's asked me many times if he could buy it off of me. He's not foreign to firearms, and is just starting to become an enthusiast. So I say sure, why not, and off to the range we go. I brought my AR and my 229 to keep me busy while he did his thing with the Glock.

All goes well, he's bugging me to buy it. I just keep telling him I'm not 100% sure I want rid of it. So we get back to my house, I crack open a beer, and pull out my cleaning stuff to clean my AR and my 229. Anyway, he sits down, cracks a beer and just hangs out.

I think to myself, "cool, he's just taking a minute before he cleans." Around 30-40minutes later he looks at me and goes "Did you want me to clean the Glock?" I told him "Yeah, it was clean when you took it out today. I'd appreciate it if it was clean the next time I want to shoot it." And he goes off about how it was only 100rds and it couldn't even be that dirty after 100 rounds. He eventually picks it up, takes it apart, sprays some CLP on a brush scrubs it real quick wipes it down, and is done in 10-15minutes.

I decided not to say anything but I'm not sure I want to take this guy shooting anymore, let alone sell him the glock if I do decide to.

Am I just being a jerk? One sided? I thought it would be assumed that he should clean it if he fired it....
 
I don't know... On the one hand, he shot your gun and should clean it.... On the other hand it's a Glock... Who cleans those?

If you're really that particular about having your guns cleaned each and every time you shoot them, perhaps you should see to it yourself so that you can be sure it's done to your standards? I could understand if it were perhaps a BP firearm, or a high dollar race gun, or a particularly long range session, but I don't see getting upset over 100 rds of fouling in a glock.
 
how long does it take you to clean a Glock? I'm with you on him cleaning it if he shot it though. I'm not that anal on cleaning though. maybe every 500 rds or several range trips for a Glock.
 
I'm not sure I get it. Were you upset because he had opportunity to clean and didn't before you mentioned it, or that he took only 15 minutes to clean it?
 
I didn't mention that upon checking the glock I'm not sure he ever tried to clean any of the CLP out of it, nor am I sure he ever ran a brush through the barrel... 10-15minute should have been ample time to do it right.

I guess I am particular about the way my guns are cleaned.... must be something I learned in the Marine Corps

I guess my real issue here is that I had to hear him complain about cleaning it... Like it was unreasonable for me to say he should clean it in the first place.... then to only clean it half way...

Every now and then my dad will let me shoot his S&W 500 mag... and I only shoot maybe 30rds but I still sit down and clean it after I shoot it. It's not a question to me
 
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JERK.... LOL just kidding.

He shot your gun and therefore should have offered to clean it. 15 is more than enough time to properly clean a Glock after 100 rounds.
 
could be that everyone dont clean as often, or as well as you.
If I expected someone to clean my gun after shooting, I'd probably tell them beforehand. ( I don't mind ya shooting it, as long as ya clean it afterwards. )
 
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We all have our own individual cleaning habits; personally I prefer to clean my own. I can't say I've ever expected someone to clean my gun after firing it, nor have I ever cleaned anyone else's gun after firing it.
 
Personally, I would not want someone else "thoroughly" cleaning my guns, any of them, even my H&R Topper Single-Shot .410 (which I meticulously refinished the stock on the first three days I owned it)!

I don't want to look at some scratch someone put on my gun because they were in a hurry or in a bad mood or angry with me, or for any reason as far as that goes!:fire:
 
And some folks would have gotten upset that their friend took their gun apart for cleaning without their permission. :cuss:

Guy - lighten up ! JMO
 
If he used it than clean it. Unless I'm told not to bother it's common courtesy to clean up a mess I made.

I don't get as anal with cleaning my guns as my friend. If I fired one shot through it he would be bugging me to make sure I clean it. He will sit there for an hour and run patches through the barrel until every tiny spec is out of the barrel and the patch is cleaner than it was when he took it out of the box. He's the same way about his car. Washes it every time he is done driving. No lie.

But aside of my short story, I know how he is, so if I touch something of his I make sure to clean it after.
 
Actually, I would rather that the gun stay dirty than have someone else clean my gun! Now, if I were selling it to the guy and he had the money on the table, he can clean away, as it is now HIS GUN, NOT MINE!
 
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If he used it than clean it. Unless I'm told not to bother it's common courtesy to clean up a mess I made.

I don't get as anal with cleaning my guns as my friend. If I fired one shot through it he would be bugging me to make sure I clean it. He will sit there for an hour and run patches through the barrel until every tiny spec is out of the barrel and the patch is cleaner than it was when he took it out of the box. He's the same way about his car. Washes it every time he is done driving. No lie.

But aside of my short story, I know how he is, so if I touch something of his I make sure to clean it after.
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Suppose in helping your friend, you accidentally drop the Kimber Ultra barrel onto the concrete patio floor.
 
"Lighten Up Francis".....:D

Just Kiddin.......Maybe a little too strict on cleaning!

HOWEVER!

I would never shoot someone elses gun and not clean it up afterward....even if it were 2 rounds....its NOT mine! It was clean when I got it, It should be clean when handed back!

I was raised that way.... my grandfather lived next door .... garden between the houses and if we borrowed his mower, tiller, etc.....it was washed off and put back in shed with full tank of gas!

Its Called respect I suppose and to me in regards to guns it is ettiquette!
 
I guess I am being a jerk. Oh well, isn't the first time, definitely won't be the last. No one else would be mad that he shot it then he complained about having to clean it, and then does a half asked job of cleaning it?

I guess the courtesy of cleaning something you used is gone... At least ask, and be sincere when you offer to clean it... Hell I stayed in a buddy's ski shack for one night, I asked him if he wanted it cleaned, when he said yes I didn't say "But it was just one night"... nor did I only make the bed and then leave dishes in the sink...
 
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"Lighten Up Francis".....:D

Just Kiddin.......Maybe a little too strict on cleaning!

HOWEVER!

I would never shoot someone elses gun and not clean it up afterward....even if it were 2 rounds....its NOT mine! It was clean when I got it, It should be clean when handed back!

I was raised that way.... my grandfather lived next door .... garden between the houses and if we borrowed his mower, tiller, etc.....it was washed off and put back in shed with full tank of gas!

Its Called respect I suppose and to me in regards to guns it is ettiquette!
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I agree 100% about everything except the part that says we are discussing GUNS. I would not let anyone touch my truck or car engine, I don't trust ANYONE with my guns, NO ONE! If I borrowed a shovel, I would clean it. If my friend's brakes on his car are acting up, I am not going to offer to repair his brakes. If his mower keeps stalling, I am not going to repair it. If I borrow something it is always returned better than when I borrowed it, however I would never take someone's gun completely apart, some people would freak out if they saw how far I could strip a gun, ANY GUN!
 
Its Called respect I suppose and to me in regards to guns it is ettiquette!
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Only if it is clearly understood by everyone involved beforehand that the owner has no problem with someone else breaking down their property. Otherwise it is taking a liberty which may NOT be granted.
 
ny32182 said:
We all have our own individual cleaning habits; personally I prefer to clean my own. I can't say I've ever expected someone to clean my gun after firing it, nor have I ever cleaned anyone else's gun after firing it.
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Personally, I would not want someone else "thoroughly" cleaning my guns, any of them, even my H&R Topper Single-Shot .410 (which I meticulously refinished the stock on the first three days I owned it)!

I don't want to look at some scratch someone put on my gun because they were in a hurry or in a bad mood or angry with me, or for any reason as far as that goes!:fire:
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Kinda the camp I'm in. I take friends to the range all the time. Some reciprocate and let me fire their firearms, some friends don't have any to reciprocate with. I've never asked any of them to clean my guns nor have they asked me. If they ride with me to the range, I don't ask them to wash my truck either.
 
If he cleaned my gun then what am I going to do later that day.

I enjoy cleaning my guns and never ask anyone to clean them when they go shooting with me. I also wouldn't clean my gun after 100rds especially a glock.
 
Suppose in helping your friend, you accidentally drop the Kimber Ultra barrel onto the concrete patio floor.
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Then I would give him the barrel out my my kimber ultra and replace the barrel if it's damaged. haha.


P.S. How the hell do you quote a post on this site? haha
 
I shot my AR about a year ago, probably one or two hundred rounds. In the past (1980's), that day I would have been home and the entire gun would be broken down, detailing every little spring.

Anymore, I could be dead tomorrow. Someone else will get my guns. The first thing they might want to do is be sure my guns are clean!

The only EXCEPTION to my laziness about cleaning guns anymore is my Black Powder Rifle. That gun, I clean, extremely thoroughly after muzzleloading season, as I know what that powder can do (even if I don't fire it).

In my older age, I have to really be in the mood to clean my guns, and I have priorities that could fill two pages, single-spaced, of things that I should do around here but they just get let go as I have been out of work for over a year. I do what I can and don't worry too much anymore if it all doesn't get done today, this week, this month, this year, this decade or this lifetime. My body has problems, I am hurting many days. Many days I am fortunate to make it out of bed and dressed.
 
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