Ron Paul and guns?

1) It's not a "two party system", it just seems that way.

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2) Ron Paul is a Republican.

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Not eactly. It is a 2 party system as far as the majority of Americans are concerned, unfortunately. Ron Paul realizes this and runs now as a Republican. But he is definitely a Libertarian. He is also our best hope, but sadly again, he won't get the nod.

If you think about it, Paul is the only candidate you can trust with 2A rights.

The reason is he is the only candidate that has a principled position - on everything.

Remember how Bush41 turned. Remember how Bush43 would have signed extensions to some of the Clinton era laws. He was not a friend of your 2A rights - he was just not an active enemy.

Your other candidates - Romney, Gingrich, Cain, Bachmann, or whoever - can and will negotiate 'reasonable' gun control if or when it becomes politically expedient to do so.

They will reason: "These guys have nowhere else to go". Like George H.W. Bush they forget that there IS one other place we can go. When election day comes, we can go home.

Since Paul's position is not something 'adopted' for a campaign his position will not change. If congress should pass some outrage, I would fully expect him to do as Jefferson with the Alien and Sedition act - refuse to enforce it.

He is also our best hope, but sadly again, he won't get the nod.

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I hate comments like this with a fiery passion. It is amazing to me that SO many people out there make these despairing comments, all the while apparently not realizing the fact that they actually collectively form a MASSIVE candidate base if they'd only stop subscribing to the idea that a candidate is "unelectable."

Wake up folks! Ron Paul is a completely viable candidate. He continues to win state straw polls (odd though it is that you rarely hear about them on the mainstream news). Don't let the media's attempt to ignore him sway you. This whole concept of "electability" is total buzzword hogwash made up to tell you that you can't have a candidate who will radically address root problems in this country and truly standing fast for the Constitution.

If you believe in a candidate (Ron Paul or otherwise), stop selling out to the mindset of "Well, he is just so correct about things that the nation would never elect him." You are the nation! If you believe in a candidate, VOTE HARD! Educate those you deal with on a daily basis. Make it happen! You do *not* need to settle on a run-of-the-mill status quo candidate just because "he's better than the current guy."

Sorry for the rant, but I had to get it out there.

If you believe in a candidate (Ron Paul or otherwise), stop selling out to the mindset of "Well, he is just so correct about things that the nation would never elect him." You are the nation! If you believe in a candidate, VOTE HARD! Educate those you deal with on a daily basis. Make it happen! You do *not* need to settle on a run-of-the-mill status quo candidate just because "he's better than the current guy."

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You can't wait until November if you want any chance of a real candidate (not even a slim chance.) You gotta vote in the primaries.

And not just the primaries, you need to get involved in the campaign BEFORE the primaries. You only get one vote yourself, but you can help influence others to vote your way by donating to the campaign, volunteering to help with phone banks, making signs, going to party meetings and getting involved in your county GOP, etc., those are the kind of things that win primaries and elections.

If you are looking for something to do but don't know what, go to www.meetup.com and search for Ron Paul groups close to you. Go to a meeting and get plugged in. A candidate doesn't need the attention of the mainstream media if he has a huge base of grassroots support.

Tallinar, I couldn't have said it better myself. Lots of modern Americans like to lament about a lot of things about this country but don't ever actually do anything about it, and keep voting for the same idiots that take us further down this road because they are "electable" (according to the media).

Have liked Ron Paul for a long time. Was happy to see him last Sunday being interviewed on TV. He held his ground and refused to support other candidates who are for more taxes, bigger government, and foriegn wars. He was actually quite animated and showed some "charisma." This being a quality he has often been critized for lacking. He is our only hope for an economically viable nation. Sure stands out in a crowd of idiots like perry, and fools like obama.

In my opinion to sum up his position, and many of his positions, he wants the government to just leave people alone about it. Let people be to enjoy their 2nd A rights. I can't argue with that.

The crazy statement taht "he is not electable" has been out there since day one.

It is promoted by the media and many believe it. That is the only reason why it could be true. Many dont want to "WASTE THEIR VOTE" and believe the TV etc.

Who would you really vote for-without holding your nose.

OR Id like to ask the naysayers- "who have you ever voted for"? Rather than voting for someone when your vote was really a vote AGAINST someone else--ie MCcain, 2x for Bushes, etc etc.

Ron Paul is the only professional politician I can vote for without holding my nose.

I'm glad I read this thread. I've heard of Ron Paul before, but never really took the time to "listen" to him. This guy is just what we need, just when we need it. There's a page on his website http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ that spells out where he stands on the major issues, and he's exactly in line with my opinions on these things. I think I've found my candidate.

For the last several elections, I've limited my choices to one party or the other, because "I'm just throwing my vote away" to vote for the third guy. Settling for the "least crappy choice" is still settling for something crappy, and I'm done with it. I hope he wins the primary, and failing that, I hope he runs in the general election anyway.

ron paul is a libertairian ... of course he suppprts the 2nd amendment. he supports it far more then anyone who has ever ran for office.

Ron Paul is an excellent candidate, and is THE single best candidate from a THR (2nd Amendment, firearms in general) standpoint.

Not only do I not have to hold my nose come the Primaries (and the General election), I dare say he will be the first candidate I've really wanted to vote for.

Ron Paul clarifies his position in Liberty Defined. The quick summary is: 1) gun free zones don't work and 2) the Second Amendment is about deposing governments, stopping invasions, and personal protection. He supports using guns against governments when necessary.

http://www.gunknowledge.com/Ammunition/Headstamps/American/Remington/index.html


I think this should make it easy to remember just WHO to cast your vote for next spring and next November.

R-P now represents Ron Paul.

(Special thanks to Remington Peters for producing so many useful electioneering devices!!!)

Sigh.

Another "throwing your vote away" argument. It is a lie intended to deceive the foolish. John Quincy Adams knew more about this any anyone who ever made such a fallacious argument. We are in this situation because people have not followed his advice:

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

He has my vote.

Vote strategically. That is, vote for the most pro-gun guy who has a realistic chance of getting elected. Unfortunately, that leaves out Ron Paul. We may not like it, but that's just the way the system is. If you don't vote for the most pro-gun guy who has a realistic chance of getting elected, then in effect you're voting for the other guy who has a realistic chance of getting elected (the most anti-gun guy).

He has my vote.

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John Quincy Adams is dead

AlexanderA said:

Vote strategically. That is, vote for the most pro-gun guy who has a realistic chance of getting elected. Unfortunately, that leaves out Ron Paul. We may not like it, but that's just the way the system is. If you don't vote for the most pro-gun guy who has a realistic chance of getting elected, then in effect you're voting for the other guy who has a realistic chance of getting elected (the most anti-gun guy).

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Don't be ridiculous.

All of the candidates are so close right now it isn't funny.

Vote your conscience. Pick the candidate you want and vote for them. Never fear, the hordes of Republican voting zombies will still vote for whoever gets nominated. Might as well pick one we like for once!

I went to see Ron Paul speak back in the Spring. The thing that impressed me most was the audience. The vast majority were young people in their 20's and 30's. The future for the liberty movement (and gun rights) looks bright because practically every sucessful political movement starts with the young. The typical Ron Paul supporter believes in a literal translation of the 2A and that the federal government should have no power over private ownership of firearms.

There's nothing not to like about Ron Paul. That's for certain. I'm voting for him this round regardless of whether or not I think he has a chance of winning.

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+1 here my friend! Ron Paul 2012!