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FN 5.7 as home defense gun?

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527, I thought so, too. If the 5.7 is an overpriced .22 magnum, then the .357 is an overpriced .380. The picture is funny, though, even if it is inaccurate.

The reason the 5.7 is suitable for HD is the same reason that a 5.56 is suitable for HD or the army. It's firing a light, fast projectile, which means it is very easy for the manufacturer to control how it dumps its energy, and because of the light bullet, it has lower recoil. If you look at the link I'm posting below (which I refer to a lot), the 5.56 actually overpenetrates less after going through drywall than your standard HD pistol round (i.e. 9mm or .45 JHP), I think the same would apply to a 5.7.

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm
 
Well, I was about to make a post in the XDm Five-seveN thread but it was locked right before I hit submit -- don't you hate when that happens? :eek::(

I'll put it in here because it probably applies to this subject as well.

Skribs said:
I've looked at the AR57 and really don't see the advantage over AR15. You lose a lot of top rail real estate and have some bulk from the lower still there that IMO doesn't need to be. If you want the extra ammo, that's what beta c-mags are for.

I do agree, if a major company like Glock had one in the same basic platform as their others, it would jump in popularity.
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AR57's are extremely fun to shoot and whisper quiet when suppressed. Felt recoil is zilch, yet the round has plenty of zip with energy numbers reaching almost 700 ft-lbs with the hotter ammo. Capacity is 50 rounds and the spent cartridges dump into the dummy AR mag.

Why not just use an AR15? Have you ever shot one in your home? The bad guy would be stunned more by the sound than the bullet. Why not just toss a flash grenade in your home?

Here is a really cool video on a surpressed AR57.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lxkiUlm3ys&feature=plcp&context=C3a806e3UDOEgsToPDskJCeKuRhDzXc_qUtoUVOTOg
 
You can suppress a 5.56 as well. For the average person who doesn't want to bother with ATF and a $200 tax stamp, suppression is irrelevant.
 
Yea glock, it was locked bc of you stating all sorts of things saying you had the proof, then when called out on it you say it is secret, private stuff basically proving to us all that you are full of it.
 
This one is perilously close to the same place. Please help steer it back from the edge. Thanks.

As I said in one of these threads, I have never seen a caliber polarize people as much as the 5.7x28. It's amazing.
 
Felt recoil is zilch, yet the round has plenty of zip with energy numbers reaching almost 700 ft-lbs with the hotter ammo
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Almost 700 ft-lbs isn't much out of something carbine sized... The 50rd capacity is nice though.
 
Smaller caliber, high capacity, lower recoil weapons are fantastic for HD.

In the event your manliness isn't behind the trigger, your wife/daughter/young son might just benefit from the characteristics of this firearm.

HD situations are extremely unpredictable simply due to their nature.

Anything you can do that solves as many of the possible problems in that situation with a single solution is positive.

*gently steers off the cliff edge* *hopes*
 
I don't have a 5.7 mostly due to how much the pistols cost. I would gladly use one for hd though, it sure beats nothing. Any gun presents a danger of penetrating through wall, so practice practice practice so you can hit your target and not endanger others.
 
As I said in one of these threads, I have never seen a caliber polarize people as much as the 5.7x28. It's amazing.
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Well the other calibers have been around for a long time and they work. It can be hard to introduce a radically different design. I like the round and it's bit of a pet peeve of mine when someone calls it a .22 magnum.
 
If I were going to consider the 5.7 for the purpose of home defense, I'd ask as many others here might; since home invasions rarely involve armored assailants (less than 1% of all home invasions involve the use of any sort of armor ) what does the 5.7 do that the other "service" calibers won't?
 
Less recoil, higher capacity, lighter platform. Makes it easier for your wife/kid to use, or for you to use 1-handed while dialing 911. It does this while maintaining a decent amount of penetration against a human body.

If those factors weren't important, we'd all be using Desert Eagles.
 
I've got video evidence that will make you chuckle when thinking about carrying a 5.7. And statements from a rocket scientist and a gynecologist saying what a pitiful round it is. But I can't share them bc theh are secret and private. And by not sharing them it will just make you haters cringe.
 
Now now, Fallout, don't get this thread locked. When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember the fire dept. usually uses water.
 
I wish we could merge all the 5.7x28mm threads ever created on this fine site (most are locked) creating one big huge repository of information for all those wanting to learn.
 
TexasRifleman said:
This one is perilously close to the same place. Please help steer it back from the edge. Thanks.

As I said in one of these threads, I have never seen a caliber polarize people as much as the 5.7x28. It's amazing.
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Amazing and fun because the facts are on our side.... :D:D:D:D (See, I just made your point). ;)
 
Skribs said:
Less recoil, higher capacity, lighter platform. Makes it easier for your wife/kid to use, or for you to use 1-handed while dialing 911. It does this while maintaining a decent amount of penetration against a human body.

If those factors weren't important, we'd all be using Desert Eagles.
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Since polymer framed pistols in the service calibers have greatly similar characteristics (mass, recoil, capacity) that's not much of an advantage.

For instance, Glock pistols weigh about the same as the FN pistol in 5.7 (a couple ounces more perhaps, but that just serves to attenuate what little recoil there is from the service calibers), produces very little recoil (especially in 9mm) and offer a wide range of easily obtainable ammo (JHPs in designs and weights) with 18 rounds aboard using the regular magazine, 20 rounds with a +2 mag extension and 33 rounds with the G18 magazines.

Much the same can be said for many of the other polymer framed pistols.

Penetration? All of the service calibers have plenty of that.
 
Gryffydd said:
Almost 700 ft-lbs isn't much out of something carbine sized... The 50rd capacity is nice though.
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It's plenty for CQB or HD. Remember, penetration won't be an issue so you don't need all that extra firepower (which is usually reserved for long distance battle and/or penetration of barriers). If you were defending a castle then I would say grab or 5.56.. or better yet, your .308.
 
fallout mike said:
Sometimes though if its real bad a explosion will suck the oxygen put and extinguish the fire. Lol
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We've all seen the O2 sucked out of the claim (by default) that you're referring to.

In the grand scheme of things it's just not that important, so let's let it slide.
 
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