Shadow 7D
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Wait, aren't ITAR's actionable under international treaty, as in Mexico can sue the US at the UN or Hague or something.
Point is F&F either 1. a SMALL group of LOCAL dudes that pushed a SMALL investigation/operation that escaped the radar... (and I think even Neverwinter can agree it isn't)
OR
2. a large operation that went to the right levels to 'approve' breaking just about EVERY gun law on the books, and then letting the guns to for NO POINT (come on, have they even bothered to arrest the strawmen?)
lacking a defined point, (and um, the trace idea, if they wanted that why don't the just trace the m16's we give the mexican army that show up???? -> really?) and then there is the kicker, WHAT was the action that was done with the data
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/26/nation/la-na-fast-furious-cable-20110726
and then there was the whole Obama/Calderon +(major media) push for a AWB
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=az2PCuXpw2K4
hell Obama held a joint new conference with him at one point.
so how bout this, take this as warning of how this stuff is done
OH and on a complete different note, did you know the 1986 Hughes Amendment was actually voted down via electronic count, but passed by 'voice' vote... learn something new every day, so no I don't put something like F&F, stupidity malice,
remember these are the people who said 'never a let a crisis go to waste'
Point is F&F either 1. a SMALL group of LOCAL dudes that pushed a SMALL investigation/operation that escaped the radar... (and I think even Neverwinter can agree it isn't)
OR
2. a large operation that went to the right levels to 'approve' breaking just about EVERY gun law on the books, and then letting the guns to for NO POINT (come on, have they even bothered to arrest the strawmen?)
lacking a defined point, (and um, the trace idea, if they wanted that why don't the just trace the m16's we give the mexican army that show up???? -> really?) and then there is the kicker, WHAT was the action that was done with the data
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/26/nation/la-na-fast-furious-cable-20110726
and then there was the whole Obama/Calderon +(major media) push for a AWB
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=az2PCuXpw2K4
hell Obama held a joint new conference with him at one point.
so how bout this, take this as warning of how this stuff is done
OH and on a complete different note, did you know the 1986 Hughes Amendment was actually voted down via electronic count, but passed by 'voice' vote... learn something new every day, so no I don't put something like F&F, stupidity malice,
remember these are the people who said 'never a let a crisis go to waste'