I have never liked HI-Points, rifles and pistols. I swore I would never own a HI-Point but, there was a 9mm carbine at my local gun store for $125. It was missing the rear sight and the front post. Just the same, I took it out back and put 50 rounds through it. It worked fine and, what's more, I was actually able to hit swingers at 60 yards by holding on top of what was left of the front sight. It was actually a lot of fun to shoot.