Skylerbone
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Agree with hatt, amen CraigC! AA14, for your purposes, you might also look into the Ruger Mini 30 if you don't find a 30-30 that strikes your fancy. Hope that doesn't stray too far off topic, just another idea.
you might also look into the Ruger Mini 30
I'd rather have the .30-30, but that's just me. Your opinion may differ.
Good Lord, we need a flatter shooting cartridge than the .30WCF for 200yds now??? If that's the case then certainly we need .300 magnums for 300yds and the .338Lapua for 400. Seriously, if I thought I needed a cartridge that shot flatter than the ole .30-30 for 200yd shots on deer-sized critters, I'd quit right now. Heaven forbid we should actually learn how our rifles shoot and adjust accordingly.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
And poor shot placement might be because:
1) range judgment is much more critical with the high, looping trajectory of the .30-30.
2) the .30-30 and the rifles it is chambered in are both inherently less accurate than .308 in a typical bolt-action
Mini 30s aren't .223, they're 7.62x39
my brother takes coyotes with his 30-30 at what I consider extreme ranges well in excess of 200 yards. But my brother has been shooting that rifle since he was 13 and he considers it almost an old friend.
I'm concluding that a Marlin 336 in 30-30 with much practice can be a really solid "defense" platform.
Ah yes, forgive me. I knew that. If I went with the 7.62x39, I'd probably opt for an AK variant.
More of what I'm looking for. I'm really sold on the idea that acquaintance with the firearm is much more important than the inherent ballistics. I'm concluding that a Marlin 336 in 30-30 with much practice can be a really solid "defense" platform.
But why would you sight in a .30-30 at 100 yards if you anticipated up to 200 yard shots? And why not discuss other bullets that may be more suited for longer range work? I hear some company made bullets for just such purposes.If both are sighted at 100 yards the 30-30 has over TWICE the extra drop out at 200 yards.
That's an irresponsible and erroneous statement.Personally I would regard using the 30-30 at 200 yards as un-sportsman. It does not retain enough energy for a predicable clean kill.
He also specifically asked about the 147 grain .308 bullet too but you didn't mention that poor selection just pointed out better options. OP isn't even talking about hunting and has cause the usually bickering about this and that.The Original Poster asked specifically for the 170 grain bullet.
OP isn't even talking about hunting and has cause the usually bickering about this and that.
I have a hard time believing a 180 grain .30-06 will not drop a rain deer in his sled tracks. Not to get off topic to much, but the people shooting the rifle must be the worst shots ever.
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I would agree. If a body cant shoot straight, they need to learn how, and quit blaming it on the cartridge