Nazi/brownshirt/intimidation tactics closes gallery in America (Abu Ghraib painting)

Not having seen the painting, I can't comment on how eell or poorly, or how respectfully or disrespectfully it treated the subject. But we might do well to remember that art reflects life. Many years ago when I studied art history, some of the most moving paintings were by a famous artist (whose name has long escaped me) on the subject of an 18th or 19th century slaughter. The images were not photo-realistic, but they were very powerful. They were not intended to celebrate the massacre, but to record it for posterity. In that the artist succeeded, probably more than he ever expected.

I attended a gallery opening just yesterday. There were six artists on display, and the work covered a wide range of topics and styles -- as well as prices. The gallery owner does not dictate what a painter paints. The gallery owner simply shows it. If this artist (of whom I've never heard) is someone well-known in California art circles, he must have built his reputation on something other than Iraqi prisoner abuse, because that wasn't in the news until a few weeks ago. So why should a gallery owner be castigated and even assaulted for showing the work of a prominent artist?

It doesn't make sense, and the "she got what she deserves" responses on this board also make no sense.

She is a leftwing activist

She was not attacked,it was a publicity stunt.
It was talked about all day on the local radio station.
I'm sure the truth will come out in a small article on the back page and be ignored by all the folks who made a big hoopla.

No outcry when NRA members,ppl from out of town wearing USA hats etc get attacked,doesn't even get in the paper.

I've seen people get attacked for even daring to have a job in Starbucks.

She is a fake!

Who wants to make a bet???

I know the North Beach area real well,I am friends with all the muslim and Iraqi's store owners in the area.
I buy my gun mags from them and they shoot at Jackson Arms shooting range like I do. It is obvious to the whole neighborhood she is a liar looking for publicity.

Your much more likely to be attacked by left wingers in frisco then the right wingers who are non existent here except for a couple of old coots like me who are harmless unless cornered.

oh yeah lets bet!!!
PS wr4ma not you,I put you on my ignore list so I don't get banned after I say something I shouldn't

I've seen pictures of the painting, and it is definitely tasteless and a poor choice of subject, badly done, and an obvious attempt to cater to some of the more "liberal'" tastes out there. All that aside, though, it was certainly nothing worthy of an assault. If you don't like what's on TV, turn the channel. If you don't like what's in the art gallery, don't patronize them.

If you want to see the type of people who hang out there, see the pix at HERE which is linked from HERE
where the issue is discussed along with other Leftist musings.

The video interview with her, as well as closeups of her injuries and the artwork are HERE. I do not see how a person being punched once in the face by a fist can do the type of injury she suffered. It looks more like road rash to me; like maybe she fell off of a bicycle.





The place is now closed and it may be she was merely using this to close a failing business anyway. Why close tha plaxce rather than simply remove the offending artwork? Oh, yeah, I forgot; It's the principle.

You feel that sting? It's pride @#$^'in with ya.

For once I may agree with W4RMA!

The Nazis were the National Socialist Party in Germany. Those who went to NEA PC public schools may not know it, but the Nazis, Communists in the Soviet Union, Communists in China and many other similar socialist/communist totalitarian regimes killed about 100 million people with dissenting opinions in the last century. But, they were very good at staging events to further their own agenda which was total power while stating publically that they were working for freedom and safety.

These "Brownshirts" went after anyone who threatened the totalitarian government power structure just as certain parties here in the USA have been trying to disarm law abiding gun owners, even while arguing for lenient sentences for real criminals. Staged events are nothing new, but either way this is an anti-personal freedom act. My personal instincts tell me this is a staged event. How could a right wing person survive in SF without politely ignoring the left?

Maybe now the leftwingers know what it feels like to be persecuted for indulging in a perfectly legal activity that someone somewhere has arbitrarily deemed 'politicially incorrect'. They reap what they sow.

I can guarantee you she wouldn't have a black eye if she answered the door with a 1911 Govt strapped to her belt. Instead she decided to rely on 911. Hope they got there in time

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Imagine that an art dealer doesn't carry a loaded gun on their hip WHILE AT WORK!

Congress was not trying to interfere with the "artist's" 1st Amendment rights.

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While it is true that the 1rst applies to goverment infringement. Respecting free speech and expression is or should be an American trait. Failure to respect anothers right of expression in my mind shows a lack of moral character.

I've seen pictures of the painting, and it is definitely tasteless and a poor choice of subject, badly done, and an obvious attempt to cater to some of the more "liberal'" tastes out there. All that aside, though, it was certainly nothing worthy of an assault. If you don't like what's on TV, turn the channel. If you don't like what's in the art gallery, don't patronize them.

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The artist is an old comic book hack who spent time in prison for draft evasion and is a definite anti goverment type.

Why close tha plaxce rather than simply remove the offending artwork? Oh, yeah, I forgot; It's the principle.

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Read the article again she did remove the art work and was threatened more.

Boofus
mabe you should read the article again you don't seem to have grasped the story the first time

Gunsmith
does that mean that if a country calls itself the "People's Democratic Republic of @#%^%*$" it's a democracy
Nazis and Socialists are polar opposites

I do not see how a person being punched once in the face by a fist can do the type of injury she suffered

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Maybe you just haven't been the recipient of a good old fashion beat-down. That injury looks amazingly similar to mine when I was jumped 10 years ago

Gunsmith
does that mean that if a country calls itself the "People's Democratic Republic of @#%^%*$" it's a democracy
Nazis and Socialists are polar opposites

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Communists are no different from Nazis. Ask anyone from a country that was occupied by both in WWII (like most easter europeans).

I'll let the words of someone more educated on the difference between the two systems explain the difference.

In 1932 Mussolini wrote (with the help of Giovanni Gentile) and entry for the Italian Encyclopedia on the definition of fascism.

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...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

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http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html

joab

Maybe you just haven't been the recipient of a good old fashion beat-down.

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Neither was she. See the video interview she did with KRON-TV http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp?S=1905001 where she states that the guy punched her ONCE.

That injury looks amazingly similar to mine when I was jumped 10 years ago

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Yeah, according to what you posted, you were punched numerous times, perhaps by more than one attacker, and perhaps even had your face smashed into the pavement.

Did she state the size and muscularity of the guy.
Wouldn't a small woman recieving a blow from a large man be about the same as a large man would recieve from a a group of smaller men ( yeah I got my ass kicked by little guys)
The point of my remark was that the injury does look like the type of injury that she could have recieved from the type of attack that she claims to have recieved.
My injuries were many but the one that I was referring to was the eye injury that I recieved in the same area as her injury.

Also to me it doesn't really matter , for this conversation, whether she was or was not attacked. (Even though I did post to that) The fact that some here who do believe she was attaked think she deserved it ,is what is so troubleing to me.
Physically attacking a woman is a cowardly act, supporting that act is just dispicable and beneath contempt

Until I see some one arrested and convicted I remain willing to bet it is a publicity stunt.

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That was my first thought.

In the absence of facts, and in the presence of sentiments expressed in a manner unbecomng the High Road, I close this thread.